Re:The History of Joy Division’s “Unknown Pleasures” Album Art
by bjornsteffanson on Saturday May 18, 2013 @10:22AM
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Can you define 'shiesty'? Not having a go, just haven't heard that word before, and searching returns conflicting results.
Re:The History of Joy Division’s “Unknown Pleasures” Album Art
by michaelwww on Sunday May 19, 2013 @11:15AM
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The top Google links didn't mention Shakespeare's Shylock, which I always understood to be the origin. It turns out there is some disagreement between this origin and a German word.
http://observer.com/2003/04/national-review-and-shyster-heav...
Re:The History of Joy Division’s “Unknown Pleasures” Album Art
by kens on Saturday May 18, 2013 @11:38AM
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I think that's an adjective form of shyster, someone who is unethical, especially a lawyer.
Re:The History of Joy Division’s “Unknown Pleasures” Album Art
by laumars on Saturday May 18, 2013 @11:32AM
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I was stumped on that term myself, but it certainly doesn't sound endearing. It felt dishonest to rip the last line from the passage though - as if I was trying to misquote him. So I left his comment in it's entirety.
Interesting, but the article misses the point in all kinds of ways. It was common knowledge (at least, to those familiar with Joy Division and Saville's work) that the image itself was appropriated from an original that was in the public domain. The interesting point here is not copyright, but the way in which an image can come to represent a concept such that it gains new meaning. When the intended audience sees this, they think, "Joy Division", not "pulsar". Hence, when you copy the image by way of Saville, you are appropriating the association that he has established. So, this isn't about stealing images, it's about riding on the coat-tails of a talented designer who managed to create a strong brand.
A proper understanding of what's going on here makes this sentiment: "If you ever want to use the image for your own personal benefit, just make sure it’s clear you have no connection with Joy Division, Peter Saville, etc…" pretty shiesty.