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Re:'Brave' creator blasts Disney for 'blatant sexism' in pri... by slantyyz on Monday May 13, 2013 @02:09PM (#5700350)
Well the ironic thing is that Zach Braff has taken a bit of heat for going to Kickstarter for "creative control". This story is a classic example of what happens when you give up creative control.

Being loudly unhappy when you're not a powerhouse like Steven Spielberg is not a good career move, because her next contract will likely have the same terms, and a big studio might think twice about hiring someone who will say negative things publicly after a movie is released.

Re:'Brave' creator blasts Disney for 'blatant sexism' in pri... by masklinn on Monday May 13, 2013 @02:27PM (#5700470)
Zach Braff has mostly taken heat because he's got the means to do it essentially alone (he kickstarted for $2m, he's worth >$20m, $2m is about half what he got for Scrubs S07)
Re:'Brave' creator blasts Disney for 'blatant sexism' in pri... by tptacek on Monday May 13, 2013 @02:49PM (#5700609)
What exactly do Zach Braff's finances have to do with how he funds a movie? This makes no sense. It argues either that Braff's fans would be somehow better off if he didn't make the new movie at all, or that Braff is somehow obligated work on projects for his fans.

The whole Braff kerfluffle seems so aggressively cut- off- nose- to- spite- face stupid; that somehow it's a bad thing when mainstream artists use crowdsourcing platforms as a substitute for the studio system, when in fact that's exactly what we need to have happen to disentangle content from holding companies and studios.

Re:'Brave' creator blasts Disney for 'blatant sexism' in pri... by masklinn on Monday May 13, 2013 @03:18PM (#5700796)
> What exactly do Zach Braff's finances have to do with how he funds a movie?

That if his motivation is the desire to retain creative control he does not need crowdfunding to do so.

> It argues either that Braff's fans would be somehow better off if he didn't make the new movie at all, or that Braff is somehow obligated work on projects for his fans.

It argues neither. It asks the question: you apparently want to do this, you seem to have the means to do it, why do you go through a crowdfunding site? The move also sends the message to potential funders that the creator doesn't really believe in the project so he wants others to bear the risks of it.

Which is (at least in part) incorrect since Braff contributes funds to it[0], sadly there's no more details and it's easy to miss it even when looking for the info. And of course the vultures who want to make copy will avoid asking this question and go for the outrage instead. But I don't see the issue with asking about it if it's done in good faith. I'm happy to know e.g. Brian Fargo is putting 100k of his own money into Torment, that tells me he believes in the thing.

[0] > I am absolutely contributing my own money to the funding of the film, but I actually can't afford to cover the entire cost of production. With a combination of my own personal funds, backing from my fans and the sale of some of the film's foreign rights, I will be able to make the film I intended to make which I am hoping is a film you want to see.

Re:'Brave' creator blasts Disney for 'blatant sexism' in pri... by slantyyz on Monday May 13, 2013 @03:28PM (#5700865)
>> It argues neither. It asks the question: you apparently want to do this, you seem to have the means to do it, why do you go through a crowdfunding site?

Isn't the standard operating procedure for making movies to go out and find other people to finance the bulk of your project, whether it be private investors or a big studio? A lot of rich stars/producers/directors get financing even though they could afford to do it all by themselves.

>> Why do you go through a crowdfunding site?

Because it's trendy and has worked for some other projects (i.e., Veronica Mars)?

Re:'Brave' creator blasts Disney for 'blatant sexism' in pri... by masklinn on Monday May 13, 2013 @03:37PM (#5700920)
> Because it's trendy and has worked for some other projects (i.e., Veronica Mars)?

Right, and that's the other thing people can take offense to. Many early "big" crowdfunding project had a feeling of "you're making it possible at all", that makes people think they can have an impact. "I heard there's free money to be had"... not so much.

Re:'Brave' creator blasts Disney for 'blatant sexism' in pri... by tptacek on Monday May 13, 2013 @05:47PM (#5701633)
What do you want crowdfunding to be? A "farm system" for talent that will move on to be financed by Big Content, or Big Content's inevitable replacement? Because the way you're framing it, you can't have it both ways.
Re:'Brave' creator blasts Disney for 'blatant sexism' in pri... by masklinn on Tuesday May 14, 2013 @01:56AM (#5703172)
I don't want anything, I don't care, I'm just trying to explain the issue people took with it.
Re:'Brave' creator blasts Disney for 'blatant sexism' in pri... by tptacek on Tuesday May 14, 2013 @08:19AM (#5704370)
Let's acknowledge that people are being idiots about this, then.
Re:'Brave' creator blasts Disney for 'blatant sexism' in pri... by tptacek on Monday May 13, 2013 @05:46PM (#5701631)
I can't understand this argument. If you have the means to fund something, your belief is that you're obligated to fund it yourself instead of financing it? How was anyone on Kickstarter harmed by being able to contribute to the funding a movie they wanted to see, rather than having a studio fund it start-to-finish?

It's just baffling.