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Re:SpaceX Grasshopper Flies High by EthanHeilman on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @09:29AM (#5594973)
You can't direct where the rocket ends up, highly likely that the rocket will get damaged or much less likely that the rocket will damage something else (This is why NASA dumps it's rockets over the ocean). Then you have find a way to get the rocket home, which involves time and money. Why not just burn fuel (rocket fuel is only a few times more expensive that burning water) and bring the rocket home?

If you need more payload build a bigger rocket.

You could also add wings to the rocket and fly it home which has it's own set of trade-offs and benefits(see space shuttle).

Re:SpaceX Grasshopper Flies High by TeMPOraL on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @09:53AM (#5595104)
> highly likely that the rocket will get damaged

And because you don't know whether it is damaged or not (sometimes the damage may not be obvious), it's likely that the rocket will have to get a long post-flight inspection to check if it is suitable for another flight. It's something you can almost completely avoid if you land the rocket gently.

I read somewhere, that the costs of recovering SRBs of Space Shuttle from the ocean and then inspecting and fixing them were many times greater than building another pair of boosters.

Re:SpaceX Grasshopper Flies High by InclinedPlane on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @10:30AM (#5595317)
The SRB thing isn't true. The costs ended up being pretty much the same for new vs. refurbed. The thing is, with solid boosters the "rocket engine" tends to just be giant aluminum cylinders, almost all the complexity of the job is in casting the fuel and putting the segments together, which is completely orthogonal to the reusability aspects.

Also, part of the allure of SRBs is that they are cheap to manufacture, comparatively (this is a false savings, due to increased operational complexity, but it's still very tempting), so even if a significant amount of money could be saved per SRB through reuse it wouldn't have affected the cost a launch much.

Re:SpaceX Grasshopper Flies High by bfe on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @01:35PM (#5596621)
The SRBs don't just impose higher operational complexity, but also far higher acoustic load that requires much higher structural strength and therefore weight on everything else.
Re:SpaceX Grasshopper Flies High by InclinedPlane on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @02:16PM (#5596925)
They also complicate the range safety situation and make on-pad aborts after they've been lit impossible. Once they've been lit you're going wherever they're going, whether you like it or not.
Re:SpaceX Grasshopper Flies High by FrojoS on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @06:34PM (#5598409)
Yet, NASA plans to use them on the new Space Launch System (SLS). Lobbyism?
Re:SpaceX Grasshopper Flies High by cdash on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @07:24PM (#5598639)
Pretty much, yes. They want to keep the people making those engines employed. I think there might be some talk about eventually going to a renewed F-1 engine with a much reduced complexity and greater thrust than the original. There is a reason why the SLS is also known as the Senate Launch System.
Re:SpaceX Grasshopper Flies High by rbanffy on Wednesday April 24, 2013 @08:02AM (#5600989)
> They want to keep the people making those engines employed.

It's more like wanting the companies that make them more profitable by requiring no retooling. I don't buy the "it's about the workers" thing.

Re:SpaceX Grasshopper Flies High by danielweber on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @11:20AM (#5595656)
Maybe you are thinking of the costs of "re-using" the Space Shuttle. $250 Million to refurb it each time. But we do it for cost savings!
Re:SpaceX Grasshopper Flies High by InclinedPlane on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @12:00PM (#5595944)
Fun fact, the cost of building a Shuttle orbiter from scratch was about $1.7 billion.

The cost of launching a Shuttle including the amortized development costs ended up being $1.5 billion per launch.