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Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by gambiting on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @05:59AM (#5594201)
" I don't care for any idiot who wants the freedom to drive their own cars"

Well and I don't care for any idiot that calls other people idiots because he does not agree with their opinions.

Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @06:15AM (#5594231)
Yes, sorry this was a figure of speech. I could have used Luddite as a more reasonable/representative term, my point is not to disparage their point of view (which they have good reasons to have), but to call it out as anachronistic in a rapidly advancing world.

Imagine how out of place/disruptive a horse buggy/donkey cart would be on a motorcar street (I don't have to imagine, unfortunately). Now, they pay taxes too, don't they have a right to be there no matter how disruptive that is?

Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by gambiting on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @07:11AM (#5594379)
Well yes, but this argument is made over and over again about cyclists - that they are a disruption and should not be allowed on the streets, especially in the cities which are hard to drive through as they are. Yet I fully support the argument that they are paying taxes and have the same right to use the road as everyone else. And yes, that includes horse-drawn carriages and donkey carts.

However, all European motorways ban vehicles that cannot go faster than 30mph(50kmh) from them, because they are supposed to be used for fast travel only, so there is a certain amount of people banned from using them,purely because they don't have a car and can't use motorways on a moped or a bicycle - even thought they pay taxes so their "rights" are somehow violated for the good of others. So I imagine that major motorways and maybe town centers could be made automatic-only. But, in the countryside, if somebody wants to drive in manual,why not? There is little joy in driving in the city,with all the tragic jams and such,but driving on the empty, countryside roads is a different matter entirely.

Re:Why aren't younger Americans driving anymore? by BruceIV on Tuesday April 23, 2013 @05:15PM (#5598050)
The comparison with cyclists isn't completely apt, though. I can't really think of an empirical benefit for human-driven cars over computer-driven (assuming there's a manual mode that can be activated outside the cities and off freeways), but governments have incentives to encourage cycling (smaller parking footprint (municipal government spends less on parking spaces), less wear on the road (lowers maintenance costs), health benefits for the riders (lower public health costs), less fuel usage (improves energy independence), etc.). I'll not make an argument about whether those factors outweigh the inconvenience of motorists dodging cyclists on the road, but I don't think there are any analogous reasons it might be a good idea to allow human-driven cars on the road with autonomous cars.