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Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by fernly on Saturday April 20, 2013 @02:20AM (#5580524)
P.Z.Myers criticized this rather severely[0] a couple days back. "They cherrypicked their data points. They didn’t include lungfish, ferns, onions, or some protists because that would totally undermine their premise; those are contemporary organisms with much larger genomes than mammals’, and their shallow, stupid exercise in curve-fitting would have flopped miserably. It’s a great example of garbage in, garbage out."

[0]http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/04/18/graaarh-ph...

Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by pg on Saturday April 20, 2013 @01:54AM (#5580468)
The striking thing about this prediction if true is that it didn't evolve on the Earth.
Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by edwinkite on Saturday April 20, 2013 @03:51AM (#5580710)
I am a postdoc working on planetary habitability. This arxiv paper is a mesh sieve masquerading as a boat.

Complexity's rise is a messy business [1]. There's some evidence for steady progress, easy steps [2]. At the other extreme, the machinery of oxygenic photosynthesis came together once after an inexplicable billion-year delay and completely reset the biosphere. No oxygen, no complex-eukaryotes-with-twisty-genomes like you and me. Inference: that was an very improbable, difficult step, and we got lucky. Survivorship (as conscious, therefore complex creatures) biases everything we see on Earth. Nobody knows whether the origin of life was an easy or a difficult step. We don't have a geologic record of the origin of life. But the existence of even one difficult step is enough to prevent you from playing Moore's Law games.

There ARE good papers in this field that get traction out of very little data [3].

There are also reasons to think that Earth life may have originated on Mars. Joe Kirschvink (Caltech) is the big advocate of this [4]. Continued Mars exploration could test this.

Interstellar panspermia, on the other hand, is vastly improbable.

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[1] good (2001) review: http://wwworm.biology.uh.edu/evodevo/lecture26/carroll02.pdf

[2] opinionated summary by Simon Conway Morris: http://www.amazon.com/Lifes-Solution-Inevitable-Humans-Unive...)

[3] my favorite is Brandon Carter's argument about the number of difficult steps in our evolution: http://www.jstor.org/stable/37419

[4] Kirschvink's argument: http://www.gps.caltech.edu/users/jkirschvink/pdfs/MarsOrigin...

Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by jeremyswank on Saturday April 20, 2013 @02:36AM (#5580565)
Either that, or our methods for dating geological strata are flawed.
Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by rimantas on Saturday April 20, 2013 @06:39AM (#5580985)
Or that article is simply crap as pointed in the top comment.
Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by jeremyswank on Saturday April 20, 2013 @12:42PM (#5581921)
Indeed, also possible.
Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by juskrey on Saturday April 20, 2013 @02:28AM (#5580543)
Origin of life may be anywhere, but this particular paper is pseudoscientific bullshit.
Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by lutusp on Saturday April 20, 2013 @04:11AM (#5580751)
This thesis obviously relies on some ad hoc assumptions about mutation rate and species diversity. Higher mutation rates and more species running in parallel equals shorter evolution time.

This is pure conjecture masquerading as science.

Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by stretchwithme on Saturday April 20, 2013 @02:28AM (#5580542)
Its almost as absurd as thinking Moore's Law will last forever.
Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by ansman on Saturday April 20, 2013 @01:24AM (#5580391)
s/M/B/g
Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by stretchwithme on Saturday April 20, 2013 @02:28AM (#5580545)
So, Boore's Law?
Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by stretchwithme on Saturday April 20, 2013 @02:05PM (#5582251)
Yeah, you want to down vote an attempt at deciphering someone's meaning.
Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by nine_k on Saturday April 20, 2013 @01:35AM (#5580424)
Done
Re:Genome complexity puts origin of life 9.7B years ago by fernly on Saturday April 20, 2013 @02:17AM (#5580512)
self monitoring of blood glucose?