I'm Sick of This

Re:I'm Sick of This by tdavis on Thursday April 09, 2009 @11:55PM (#555669)

I think you're misinterpreting exceptions in so much that you feel they need to be unexpected. Say you have a list like [[1,2,3],[4,5,6]]. You could count each of the lists and loop through them individually, or you could create a recursive function that assumes a flat list and switches when an index error occurs:

  def wtf(l, count=0):
    cl = l[0]
    try:
      return wtf(cl[count:], count+1)
      except IndexError:
          # Reverse the list and start over
          cl = l[::-1]
          return wtf(cl, 0)

Hopefully that gets my point across. Basically, exceptions are very useful, and there is nothing wrong with expecting and catching their throws under certain circumstances.

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Re:I'm Sick of This by dasil003 on Friday April 10, 2009 @01:01PM (#556320)

Or I can just use my class and everything is a zillion times cleaner. I don't see why you're still arguing with me over this. My class is very clean and guaranteed to be compatible with all other code. Perhaps you got thrown by a previous commenter saying I "redefined nil?". But actually I did was define a nil? method on my internal UndefinedHash class, overriding the default Object implementation (ie. standard inheritance stuff, nothing dangerous).

I know you can do useful things with Exceptions when necessary. However I have to say unequivocably that using an exception in this case would be the worst possible idea. Why? Because the exception would be NoMethodError (ie. from nil[:key]). This equivalent to a NullException in Java, indicating all manner of generic logic errors that could have occurred anywhere within the stack.

If you looked at what I was actually doing, you might agree that SafeNestedHash is an incredibly useful abstraction. Hell, if it was written in PHP you could look at the algorithm and say, "wow, that's fast, elegant and readable." I'm not sure why you're so dead set that I'm doing something wrong, but you're just pulling this stuff out of thin air without any context.

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