Lulu: An App No One Should Accept

Re:Lulu: An App No One Should Accept by erikpukinskis on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @11:46AM (#5525828)

Until we, as a society, can stop blaming women for their rapes (she was so sloshed, what did she think would happen when she got into bed with him?) women are going to be EXTREMELY conservative about these kinds of things.

When it's your fault if he rapes you, you put "creepy" on a hair trigger.

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Re:Lulu: An App No One Should Accept by drzaiusapelord on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @12:15PM (#5526064)

You're being disingenuous. There are thousands of rape convictions a year regardless of whatever cherry-picked anti-women sentiment you think exists. Some of which are purely on hearsay and men go to prison with little to no physical evidence. Brian Banks is a good example.

Also, this app is to rate men. Its not an anti-rape app. Stop playing the rape card to defend every lousy idea.

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Re:Lulu: An App No One Should Accept by john_b on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @12:48PM (#5526321)

And when it's your fault for being a "creeper" when you just try to talk to a woman, you learn not to bother. Blaming women for their rapes is of course absurd and unjust, but indiscriminately second guessing all men everywhere is not the solution.

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Re:Lulu: An App No One Should Accept by lmickh on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @12:01PM (#5525942)

Maybe you didn't mean to use that example, but I think your point is kind of defeated if you say when women are simply being conservative or cautious and append that to a very non-cautious act. Getting sloshed is not the cautious way to go about something whether you are male or female. Your chance of being a victim of a crime (not just sexual crimes) goes up when you get drunk.

Before anyone jumps the gun, I'm not saying that someone raped while drunk is at fault. Only that this is a bad example of someone acting cautious at all. Caution and being protective (or the lack there of) != fault.

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Re:Lulu: An App No One Should Accept by erikpukinskis on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @06:22PM (#5528605)

Yeah, but women want to have fun. So the solution is get drunk, but be careful about who you hang out with. Thus the hair-trigger creepiness detectors.

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Re:Lulu: An App No One Should Accept by newnewnew on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @11:50AM (#5525859)

so now a socially awkward attempt to start a conversation with a woman means you're a rapist...

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Re:Lulu: An App No One Should Accept by antimagic on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @12:24PM (#5526135)

No, not what the GP said. Simply put, women are overly cautious when evaluating men because they know that they are not very well protected by the law (in as much as the threat of punishment acts as a deterrent, an idea for which the jury is still out) when it comes to rape, so they have to protect themselves by using any little indicator to hint that they are in the presence of a pervert. This is not particularly fair to most men, but I don't know that asking women to assume more risk so that you have an easier time getting laid is very fair either.

Just in case you are unaware of this, most women I know and have discussed this with agree that social awkwardness in men is often correlated with inappropriate sexual behaviour, so yes, if you make an awkward attempt at conversation, you are probably going to get negatively labelled. May I suggest working on your social skills if this bothers you?

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Re:Lulu: An App No One Should Accept by lmickh on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @12:46PM (#5526301)

That is a very subjective measure. Would be interesting to see a study about whether women actually correlate social awkwardness with inappropriate behavior or unwanted behavior. If the guy is super charming and does the same thing, do they still consider it inappropriate?

I've known a number of women that tend to avoid the socially smooth guy because they see it as a mask for other sexual behaviors. I'm sure much of these types of judgments come from personal past interactions regardless of which direction they tend. Yay for anecdotal evidence!

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Re:Lulu: An App No One Should Accept by hluska on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @12:50PM (#5526332)

I don't disagree with what you're saying, though I think that only picking on social awkwardness goes too far. For the benefit of any guys who read this and feel bad about themselves, here are some other behaviours that frequently correlate with inappropriate sexual behaviour:

- playing on a sports team (I'm Canadian, so I like to pick on hockey players, but this happens in other sports as well).

- working on oil rigs.

- abusing heavy drugs.

- working in sales.

- being too smooth.

- practicing that moronic "treat girls like your sister and insult them" pick-up method.

Long story short, there are many, many indicators of inappropriate sexual behaviour.

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Re:Lulu: An App No One Should Accept by theorique on Wednesday April 10, 2013 @01:21PM (#5526554)

being too smooth.

Too smooth? What is the right amount of smooth?

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