So where's the proof that they lied? Quote the text.

Out of curiosity, how would you describe the Iraq adventure? Is there anything good that can be said about it? I met a man from Kirkuk 2 days ago - family scattered around the globe, and says he can't go home, or he will be dead in a week. The country is in ruins.

I very much doubt you'll get a useful answer. As you can see the person is hung up on a black/white/pedantic point of the use of the word lie up top. He won't be satisfied by anything less than absolutes.

While some were truly evil, I tend to believe that Bush wanted to believe it enough that he convinced himself of it. The human mind is a subject of its own.