Verizon DSL is moving to Carrier Grade NAT

Re:Verizon DSL is moving to Carrier Grade NAT by bryanmig on Sunday April 07, 2013 @11:07PM (#5509790)

This isnt that big a deal. They say that you can opt out of this and that it does not apply to Fios or Business customers.

I'm sure there is a huge amount of customers who will never have any clue that anything has changed since they dont play games, run servers, need VPNs, etc.

It's probably a good thing for everyone else given that it does raise even more awareness of the problem.

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Re:Verizon DSL is moving to Carrier Grade NAT by georgemcbay on Sunday April 07, 2013 @11:34PM (#5509863)

There are some large-ish groups of people out there for whom this will cause issues, eg. people who play console multiplayer gamers (millions of people including Halo/COD/etc players).

As someone who games on Xbox Live, a part of me would actually like to see this become more common with other carriers to force next gen consoles to move to a dedicated server model since the current "pick a host among the gamers in the lobby and hope for the best" model results in a fairly poor experience a lot of time even without pervasive CGNATing.

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Re:Verizon DSL is moving to Carrier Grade NAT by icebraining on Monday April 08, 2013 @05:37AM (#5510781)

Unfortunately, things seem to be moving the other way, with PC FPSs (traditionally using dedicated servers) adopting the lobby model - it's why I never moved beyond CoD 4.

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Re:Verizon DSL is moving to Carrier Grade NAT by Aloha on Monday April 08, 2013 @03:21AM (#5510388)

And so? You can still opt out?

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Re:Verizon DSL is moving to Carrier Grade NAT by vy8vWJlco on Monday April 08, 2013 @03:57AM (#5510481)

I can also opt out of my ISP's DNS hijacking, but I don't bother to anymore. (It keeps forgetting me when I get a new address.) It's simply become the new norm.

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