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Re:The Talent Shortage Myth and Why HR Should Get Out of the... by rayiner on Tuesday April 02, 2013 @10:09PM (#5483750)
I do think there is a talent shortage, but I also think tech companies could learn a few things from other industries that have figured out how to recruit at scale. E.g. at my company hiring is not done by HR. A recruiting department handles the planning and logistics, but evaluations are done by lawyers. A potential recruit will be evaluated by associates at say a cocktail reception, interviewed by an associate or sometimes a partner in a screening interview, interviewed by several associates and partners at a callback, and will be hired or not based on the judgment of a hiring committee of partners. At no point does a candidate answer to someone who hasn't been in exactly that same seat before (even the recruiting people are often lawyers who left active practice). As I understand it, finance, consulting, and accounting work the same way, even in huge organizations.

The downside of this is that it's very time-consuming, and very expensive. But you get what you pay for.

Re:The Talent Shortage Myth and Why HR Should Get Out of the... by tptacek on Wednesday April 03, 2013 @01:35PM (#5487593)
I'm not sure I've ever known of a tech company that had a centralized HR department making hiring decisions. Mind you, I've worked for tech companies that had HR departments that thought they had a say in hiring, but that was a self-serving delusion on their part.

I think the tech industry, like most industries, does do hiring by having domain experts evaluate candidates. That's why hoary old books like "What Color Is Your Parachute" focus so intently on getting you to identify the real hiring managers at companies.

I definitely don't think the tech industry does hiring well. I think that's one of the huge, open, lucrative "meta-problems" in the tech industry.

Re:The Talent Shortage Myth and Why HR Should Get Out of the... by rayiner on Wednesday April 03, 2013 @04:02PM (#5488666)
One place I worked had HR do screening interviews. It was like a resume-grep, except in person. They asked me if I knew SQL. I said no, other than the briefest exposure in class. Ultimately got hired anyway, but never came close to working on any SQL. I'm not sure we even had any SQL running anywhere in the company at the time.
Re:The Talent Shortage Myth and Why HR Should Get Out of the... by rdouble on Tuesday April 02, 2013 @11:30PM (#5484060)
Most good startups do hire this way. At least, at first. As you mention, it's hard to scale. A handful of larger companies seem to know how to recruit at scale... Google, Apple, Palantir, Facebook, etc.
Re:The Talent Shortage Myth and Why HR Should Get Out of the... by rayiner on Tuesday April 02, 2013 @11:53PM (#5484119)
I suppose it depends on how you define "larger." It seems to work well enough for banks with thousands of bankers and 100+ new recruits each year. But it is definitely expensive, and above all requires total organizational commitment. Recruiting becomes a substantial budget item, and very few people in the organization consider themselves "too important" to get involved with it.