"Optimizations should be added to V8" for the asm.js subset of JavaScript

Re:"Optimizations should be added to V8" for the asm.js subs... by eksith on Thursday March 28, 2013 @04:54AM (#5453833)

It's not just for the browser experience. I see all this is a preemptive move to make developing games (and other "rich experience apps") on Firefox OS more attractive to new developers. Who knows, we may even have some ports of existing games for it pretty soon.

Very smart move IMO.

Edit: To clarify. To think that the devs here are interested means the Mozilla folks got the right idea.

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Re:"Optimizations should be added to V8" for the asm.js subs... by mtgx on Thursday March 28, 2013 @05:04AM (#5453861)

Can you port say OpenGL 4+ games to asm.js and the browser, or will you be able to use only the WebGL/OpenGL ES 2.0 API for it? If so, then we will only see mobile/indie games on the web for now, at least until WebGL gets more advanced graphics API's.

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Re:"Optimizations should be added to V8" for the asm.js subs... by eksith on Thursday March 28, 2013 @05:11AM (#5453877)

Don't see OpenGL 4+ making it to asm.js, but if anything has shown me with my limited experience in gaming, it's that people don't always flood to games because of the eye-candy alone. Case in point: Angry Birds.

I think WebGL/OpenGL will do nicely to create a game like Ikaruga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikaruga). It's probably one of the hardest, but most enjoyable games I've ever played and I think mobile/indie game developers will pull it off. If anything this opens up a new democracy in the previously restrictive world (if not outright closed as in iOS) game development for devices and consoles.

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Re:"Optimizations should be added to V8" for the asm.js subs... by mtgx on Thursday March 28, 2013 @05:27AM (#5453919)

I just wasn't sure whether this is bound to WebGL or not. But even if it is, it's only a matter of time before WebGL gets graphics API's as advanced as the full OpenGL (5-10 years).

I think we're already going to see OpenGL ES 3.0 being implemented into WebGL within the next 2 years, and even if WebGL never adopts the full OpenGL (it has a lot of cruft anyway), keeping up with the OpenGL ES API's should be good enough (OpenGL ES 3.0, ES 4.0, ES 5.0, etc).

I was thinking the OpenGL ES will be the future most popular graphics API anyway (on any platform). It's just that Nvidia announcing full OpenGL 4.3 support for Tegra 5 kind've made me re-evaluate that. But if other mobile chip makers just stick with OpenGL ES, and WebGL does, too, then OpenGL ES should still become the most popular graphics API in the next few years.

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Re:"Optimizations should be added to V8" for the asm.js subs... by Raphael_Amiard on Thursday March 28, 2013 @05:15AM (#5453893)

> Don't see OpenGL 4+ making it to asm.js

It won't make it into asm.js anyway, but into the WebGL spec.

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Re:"Optimizations should be added to V8" for the asm.js subs... by coldtea on Thursday March 28, 2013 @06:09AM (#5454023)

>Can you port say OpenGL 4+ games to asm.js and the browser, or will you be able to use only the WebGL/OpenGL ES 2.0 API for it? If so, then we will only see mobile/indie games on the web for now, at least until WebGL gets more advanced graphics API's.

Why, did you expect AAA games on the browser?

One step at a time people, one step at a time...

Mobile games of the kind you get on an iPad, with 60fps are a perfectly good target for the web browser.

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Re:"Optimizations should be added to V8" for the asm.js subs... by james4k on Thursday March 28, 2013 @05:11AM (#5453881)

Still restricted to JavaScript APIs, so only WebGL.

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