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Re:The PyCon Incident by ceol on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @07:54PM (#5411598)
> women want to be equal, but they want to keep certain privileges.

What privilege is this that she wants to keep? Women are already bombarded with sex jokes. The fact it's such an outrage she spoke up is testament to that.

Re:The PyCon Incident by katbyte on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:42PM (#5412198)
There isn't an outrage because she spoke up, there's an outrage because she publicly identified and shamed them over something so minor. It should have gone no further then her contacting the event staff and how they resolved it
Re:The PyCon Incident by ceol on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:49PM (#5412242)
So, I'm wondering what world you all live in where posting a photograph of someone with no name or identity attached is "publicly shaming" them.
Re:The PyCon Incident by katbyte on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @10:26PM (#5412393)
well i could be a smart ass and say a world with face recognition & the internets.

Or just point out that in the photo https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/313417655879102464/...

you can clearly see both their badges (with names) and their are wearing their companies t-shirt. Also she really should have cropped it because the poor man on the left is going to be mistaken for the one of them now.

Re:The PyCon Incident by ceol on Thursday March 21, 2013 @12:32AM (#5412932)
"Alex" something? I can't read that.

And I think their company might have more than one bearded guy on staff, so it's hardly obvious.

Re:The PyCon Incident by anigbrowl on Thursday March 21, 2013 @01:55AM (#5413204)
Yeah, but I can, and I found him in 30 seconds. And that's the guy who was not fired, and who may not have anything to apologize for. As best I can tell it was the person sitting to his left that lost his job.

It's disingenuous to dismiss photos as anonymous when it's so easy to either crowdsource or reverse-engineer someone's identity. If you weren't aware of how easy it is, then I politely suggest you're a little naive.

Re:The PyCon Incident by katbyte on Thursday March 21, 2013 @03:08AM (#5413462)
Not to mention there is a guy in the photo who wasn't involved at all and just happened to be sitting there and allot of people are mistaking him for the guy who was fired. Sucks to be him right now.
Re:The PyCon Incident by anigbrowl on Thursday March 21, 2013 @04:17AM (#5413709)
Agreed, it's a classic example of two wrongs not making a right.
Re:The PyCon Incident by keli on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @08:25PM (#5411810)
it's not an outrage she spoke up. she overheard an inappropriate comment and proceeded to publicly drag these guys' reputations through the mud. between the two actions (private, inappropriate comments in a public space, or calling out the pitchforks), her action was clearly worse, and in real terms more damaging.
Re:The PyCon Incident by ceol on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @08:33PM (#5411859)
She didn't drag their reputations through anything, because I don't believe they were named. She only asked the PyCon organizers to do something about them via Twitter.
Re:The PyCon Incident by jimminy on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:09PM (#5412063)
She did post a picture of them, wearing their companies t-shirt, resulting in one of the individuals to be released from his job.
Re:The PyCon Incident by ceol on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:47PM (#5412228)
I'm still not seeing the part where their reputations were publicly dragged through the mud. To do that, you would have to identify them, and the only people who know them are the ones who paid for their trip in order to represent them: their employers.

It's a shame he got fired, but I don't necessarily blame his company. I wouldn't want someone telling dick jokes and making me look bad doing it on my dime.

Re:The PyCon Incident by healsdata on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @11:16PM (#5412618)
How many Alex's work at PlayHaven? Because both of those things are clearly visible in the photo she posted. According to LinkedIn, it's a company of 11-50 people and it took me one minute to find their profiles.
Re:The PyCon Incident by natas_drol on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @11:36PM (#5412711)
Apparently he wasn't involved. Did Adria Richards falsely accuse Alex Reid of misconduct and post his personally identifying information online?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5404193

Re:The PyCon Incident by codygman on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @10:03PM (#5412291)
A name isn't the only form of identification, which is proven by one of the guys getting fired.
Re:The PyCon Incident by ceol on Thursday March 21, 2013 @12:34AM (#5412934)
I know. That's why I mentioned their employers in my previous comment. That still doesn't mean she publicly dragged them through the mud. She didn't release a pastebin full of their information. She never even mentioned their name.
Re:The PyCon Incident by mnicole on Thursday March 21, 2013 @11:28AM (#5415702)
She didn't mention their names because she didn't have to; she deliberately took the photo to show the names on their badges and specifically (even saying so in her blog post, which actually acts to incriminate her more than it does to justify her actions) because one of them was a sponsor and she wanted to get that fact on file. She set out to humiliate these men in front of her thousands of followers and make a mockery of them and their behavior. Neither of them had the means to even begin to refute her claims before they were burned at the stake, and this guy lost his job before most of us even knew this happened.

That is the very definition of dragging someone's reputation through the mud.

Re:The PyCon Incident by amw on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @08:06PM (#5411686)
> What privilege is this that she wants to keep? Women are already bombarded with sex jokes. The fact it's such an outrage she spoke up is testament to that.

This times three million.