Re:Formerly Top Secret NSA Cryptologs From 1974-1997
by dfc on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @11:53AM
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"One of the most selective criteria for working there is patriotism and unquestioned loyalty to the country, this includes people who love and swear they support the Constitution."
Did you work in HR at NSA/CIA or is this how you guess things work?
Re:Formerly Top Secret NSA Cryptologs From 1974-1997
by neilc on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @12:29PM
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The basic criteria for getting a job at the NSA is public knowledge (https://www.nsa.gov/careers/jobs_search_apply/hirerequire.sh...):
The background investigation helps determine the applicant's honesty, trustworthiness, reliability, discretion, and unquestioned loyalty to the United States.
Re:Formerly Top Secret NSA Cryptologs From 1974-1997
by dfc on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @12:35PM
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I have seen NSA's recruiting information a couple times in the past. Can you highlight the bit that says which criteria is the most selective?
Re:Formerly Top Secret NSA Cryptologs From 1974-1997
by igravious on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @02:05PM
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Stop being obtuse.
unquestioned loyalty to the United States.
As soon as one stops questioning ones reasoning gets selective and biased.
Re:Formerly Top Secret NSA Cryptologs From 1974-1997
by anigbrowl on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @04:18PM
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Loyalty and blind obedience are not necessarily the same thing. I'm fond of Carl Schurz's aphorism: “My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”
Re:Formerly Top Secret NSA Cryptologs From 1974-1997
by dfc on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @02:21PM
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What am I being obtuse about and why are you talking about selective and biased reasoning? The aspect of the comment I was responding to was "One of the most selective criteria." Do you know what the most selective hiring criteria is for TS/SCI work?
So how do they end up sucking up tons of data from all over the internet, filtering and storing it (which includes private data of US citizens) -- easy, it is justified as fighting terrorism and protecting our country.
There is a story one needs to tell oneself continuously in order to maintain and support this brainwashing. These are stories that NSA tells itself (public is concerned but they have nothing to worry, we know we don't want to harm them, we are here to protect them).
Pretty sure if you asked those who conducted tortured at the CIA, they'd also tell you they are devout patriots and did what the did to protect the Country, the Constitution, the Flag and everything that stands behind it.