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Re:Free works by youngerdryas on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @04:20PM (#5403352)
Look I like Google and I understand they have to run a business but I have a hard time believing that shuttering Reader has nothing to do with driving people to G+.
Re:Free works by tolmasky on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @04:30PM (#5403413)
I guess you are not understanding my position. I neither like nor don't like Google, and I'm not "defending" their position from an altruistic standpoint. Maybe their plan is to help G+ through shutting down Reader, I don't know. My point is that if they did that, it wouldn't be a testament for or against their openness, because Reader merited being shut down either way, for the simple fact that it is a failed technology.

If you strongly want "open" to beat "closed social", then maybe RSS dying might be a step in a positive direction, since its had its shot, and proved to just not be useful for people. Now, I personally feel RSS neither hurts nor helps "closed social" in any way, so I think its inconsequential.

Re:Free works by youngerdryas on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @05:06PM (#5403643)
Well you may have a point about RSS being a failed technology, at least for the masses, who seem to prefer bells and whistles.
Re:Free works by Kylekramer on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @04:25PM (#5403382)
I am not following the logic you believe Google would use to think shuttering Reader would push people to Google+. How does pissing off people who use Reader push them to use another service by the company that just pissed them off? Especially when Google+ doesn't really do what the Reader did?
Re:Free works by youngerdryas on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @04:38PM (#5403462)
Re:Free works by Kylekramer on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @04:50PM (#5403549)
Nothing into that link says anything about shutting down Reader to drive people to Google+.

It does have a former employee saying Google+ is more of a focus for Google than Reader, but that isn't remotely the same and everyone knew that for quite a while.

Re:Free works by youngerdryas on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @05:07PM (#5403646)
From the article:

After all, before Google Reader’s sharing features were converted to corresponding Google+ ones, users of the soon-to-be-killed service used to share like crazy. Shih postulates, with plenty of logic, that this activity dropped as Google pushed Reader users to sharing on Google+ instead.

Re:Free works by Kylekramer on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @05:30PM (#5403745)
That is in reference to the changing from internal sharing to Google+ sharing in October 2011, not shutting down Google Reader. I understand that Google prefers their users to use Google+ over Reader, but I still don't see how shutting down Reader = more Google+ users, even from Google's perspective. If anything, they are removing a service that could have driven Google+ sharing.