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Re:Checkboxes that kill your product by potch on Monday March 18, 2013 @03:41PM (#5396642)
I have some bad news about what constitutes a "normal" website these days.
Re:Checkboxes that kill your product by Dylan16807 on Monday March 18, 2013 @04:08PM (#5396798)
I think in the last three weeks I have needed javascript for three things:

1. feed/email app sites

2. trying out stacksort

3. loading flash embeds on youtube because youtube is set up annoyingly

So tell me your bad news. What sites are you talking about here that apparently make up a majority of the internet and need javascript?

Also I just turned off images and tried a few pages, nothing broke. Google's homepage had a perfectly visible text box, I'm not sure what the problem in the article was.

Re:Checkboxes that kill your product by codesuela on Monday March 18, 2013 @06:14PM (#5397524)
How about facebook (specifically messaging and paging also no likes and comments for users without JS)? I know, you probably don't use it but I know quite a few people who do.
Re:Checkboxes that kill your product by negativity on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @01:32PM (#5402312)
Yeah, but that's why it's a switch, and these features are defaulted to "enabled".

Nothing wrong there. We need these switches. Taking them away is a bad, BAD idea.

If the discussion were about how to provide access to these settings in a cleaner manner, so that people understand why they exist, and how to properly use them, I'm all for that. Increasing awareness and informing people about what the internet does, how it all works, and why they should care is a good idea.

This article doesn't take that tone. It just says "Ew, yucky! Hide all these settings because they're ugly, or better yet, don't make them settings. Don't even let people change them. It doesn't matter how practical they are. They keep us from making money. The ivory tower, where all the developers live, will be able to figure out a way around the road blocks we put up as they usually do."

Re:Checkboxes that kill your product by Dylan16807 on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @12:39AM (#5398983)
Messaging is more of an 'app' thing than a website thing. Comments not working just makes me call it one of the minority of badly-coded sites. There is absolutely no need for scripting just to have comments.