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in last month I jumped in to iOS development. And XCode was a breeze

Something's off here. You're questioning veteran iOS developers' abilities after having started iOS development a month ago?

I used to do iOS development and still keep in touch with several iOS developers of apps everyone has on their devices. The best I can get out of any of them is "XCode is okay", but more often than not, there's expletives and scathing remarks, especially since XCode 4, when they "iTunesified" the interface.

You just started iOS development, which means you're still getting the hang of things and the workflows. Give it a little time before you call people out.

That said, I can't say that Android development is much better, although I've just gone through the tutorials on developer.android.com for the heck of it.

Compare this with iOS development. IntelliJ's AppCoder is nice, but because quite a lot of things can be only done from XCode, Appcoder is second class citizen. Let me re-iterate, if you haven't used Appcoder, it is a vastly superior IDE compared to Xcode any given day.

Also, the ADT bundle that Google now has works way better than downloading Eclipse and installing the plugin.

Although, I agree with you, I think Xcode works quite well. But, there are improvements that could be made...

Nope. Like my comment said: "Targeting the Mac"

File -> New -> Project

See all that fun stuff under listed under OS X?

How dare you try to call someone out for being rude when your first comment to them was that.

Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation.[1]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=_Simon [1] http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I really don't think you are properly equipped to debate things on HN. You should go back to Digg. It's your natural home.

Besides that I'll just repeat what was that here and what's said in pretty much every discussion mentioning Eclipse: IntelliJ Idea.

The only thing I really miss about iOS development when doing Android work is not having blocks in Java, and it's still generally Good Enough if I squint and pretend that anonymous inner classes are equivalent. (IntelliJ helps to reinforce this illusion with automatic folding, too.) The iOS simulator is a bit better, but I don't generally find myself really missing it, especially since developing on a real device is much better in Android land.

Xcode is way behind the times in terms of automated assistance while coding. Every time I have to stop in the middle of writing some code to go up and add an #import that the IDE could easily add itself, I hate Xcode a little more. And that's really the tip of the iceberg.

I'm really hoping that AppCode 2.0 can give me the IntelliJ experience for iOS coding, because Xcode 4 has been a disaster from day one and is not getting better fast enough.

Your opinion may differ, but please don't act like disagreement can only be due to ignorance.

Thank you for the time and effort put into NSBlog. It's awesome. Had no idea you write for Android now. Will there ever be an NSBlog equivalent for Android?

Which is why whenever I see the XCode vs Eclipse talk I'm left with the gut wrenching feeling of hating them both.

Also it'd be nice if the IDE supported the platform languages (Java and ObjC).

And this is coming from a huge fan of Qt and a KDE user.