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Re:Show HN: 6 months ago I quit my job to pursue indie dev. ... by cscurmudgeon on Friday March 08, 2013 @02:29PM (#5345230)
I am not saying that rules are supreme and should not be violated. I am saying there are morals and whether they conflict with the rules or with your religion is secondary.

I am sort of arguing from a post conventional stage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlberg%27s_stages_of_moral_de...

Don't think I am arguing from a religious perspective or from a moronic "rules are holy" perspective.

Fuck religion and fuck the rules and laws.

There is a universal moral core which is the only thing I am arguing from.

Re:Show HN: 6 months ago I quit my job to pursue indie dev. ... by VonGuard on Saturday March 09, 2013 @08:14PM (#5350264)
Sounds like you and I have similar religious (or lack there of) beliefs, if you're arguing from that. Sadly, HN is all about the startup dream: money, and changing the world...

I would say that money is the guiding light of many here, perhaps only out-shined by the dictums of clean, recursive code. I just felt obligated to tell these guys how they could best support themselves with this game, as is, barring another 6 months of reworking it. Having quit his/their jobs and such, I'm sure money is very important.

Making money on games, and making awesome games are kinda two different things. The lines around advertising, Terms of Service, and the general expectations of a free versus paid user, this is all some very shaky ground on which to stand. But when I'm giving advice on a game in this market, I just calls 'em like I sees 'em. It's a terrible reality inside the app stores. Their terms of service change monthly, they can throw you out in the street for a lot less than gaming their systems. It's a marketplace, and these paid install services are growing, just like search engine optimization sites did. It's one of those icky business decisions, and lines that you pay a suit to worry about. Given money from this app, these guys can go and make a great game that can stand on its own merits.