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Re:The inside story of how 382 recruiters pursued an imagina... by rayiner on Thursday March 07, 2013 @06:38PM (#5341143)
I don't think it's a matter of attitude, it's a matter of scale. Training entry-level people properly takes scale. You need procedures, systems, and institutional knowledge. You need to be able to "write off" time spent learning. Startups don't have, nor can they afford, any of these things. If you look at professions that train fresh graduates systematically (everything from finance to accounting to medicine) you'll note that there is an "assembly line" quality to the process.

What's lamentable is big, established engineering companies that don't train their people.

Re:The inside story of how 382 recruiters pursued an imagina... by zem on Thursday March 07, 2013 @08:12PM (#5341545)
nope, i did this in a startup with three engineers and no budget to hire rockstars. i hired four entry-level engineers, selecting strongly for people who could learn quickly and readily adopt the best practices i wanted to train into them. it worked out very well indeed, at the cost of another two hours per day of my time for roughly six weeks. as part of the bargain, they were willing to put in extra hours learning ruby and posix apis in their own time to keep up with the training schedule.