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Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by roc on Thursday March 07, 2013 @05:06PM (#5340661)
> "Takeover by EA is usually considered a death knell for game studios..."

Further to this point: Maxis, makers of Sim City, were notable for a long time as being the glaring exception when it came to EA's habit of buying and squeezing studios to death.

But the writing was on the wall when THE SIMS hit so big and was.. "exploited"[1] so heavily.

And when Will left... well, it's just flat-out inconceivable that anyone remained naive about what EA was going to get up to.

[1] http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/12/05

Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by sshumaker on Thursday March 07, 2013 @06:58PM (#5341248)
That's slightly revisionist history. EA bought Maxis when they weren't in great financial shape (it didn't help that basically every Friday was spent at the bar). It's true that the Sims was a huge success that EA didn't anticipate (they repeatedly tried to kill the project), but the jury is still out if Maxis would have survived long enough to release it without EA's funding and support.
Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by roc on Friday March 08, 2013 @09:16AM (#5343499)
I wasn't remotely talking about money; about why Maxis sold, whether they had to or anything along those lines. You're projecting an argument I never made.

I'm talking purely about the games and the people who make them.

EA buys studios and squeezes them. Why the studios subjected themselves to it is irrelevant to the fact that it happened. Repeatedly. Pretty much non-stop since Trip walked out the door. EA's long-standing treatment of their employees and the properties they owned, in the pursuit of a release schedule that burned out both in short order, is not revisionist history. It is EA's history.

Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by mmanfrin on Thursday March 07, 2013 @07:56PM (#5341491)

  EA bought Maxis when they weren't in great financial shape
I'm not familiar with the specifics, but if Maxis was in such dire straits, why did Wright become the largest shareholder of EA as a result of the takeover? And his partner became CEO for a while.
Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by ekianjo on Thursday March 07, 2013 @09:52PM (#5341836)
> Wright become the largest shareholder of EA as a result of the takeover

Sources?

Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by pyre on Thursday March 07, 2013 @10:37PM (#5341961)
From Wikipedia[1]:

  > The company's IPO took place in 1995. In 1997, after
  > setbacks on a series of secondary titles, Braun and
  > Wright sold Maxis to Electronic Arts for US$120
  > million in stock. The deal made Braun the largest
  > shareholder in EA at the time.
Not Wright, but a result of the purchase.

Also from Wikipedia[2]:

  > Maxis went public in 1995 with revenue of US$38 million.
  > The stock reached $50 a share and then dropped as Maxis
  > posted a loss. EA bought Maxis in June 1997.
and

  > It was a difficult idea to sell to EA, because
  > already 40% of Maxis's employees had been laid
  > off.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Braun

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Wright_(game_designer)

Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by MartinCron on Thursday March 07, 2013 @05:48PM (#5340896)
I remember when The Sims was first announced, where Maxis was saying "And most of the game isn't even done yet. We've got loads of new stuff we'll release for free online!" which turned into dozens of boxed expansion packs.

Yuck.

Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by RexRollman on Thursday March 07, 2013 @06:52PM (#5341217)
Really? Wow, what a bunch of jerks. I am surprised that anyone even wants to buy a game from them after something like that.
Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by rayiner on Thursday March 07, 2013 @10:01PM (#5341859)
Yet they do keep buying, year after year. They want the polish of AAA EA titles as compared to indie fare, and they're willing to bend over to get it.

Its the whole consumer versus content producer battle in a microcosm, and it doesn't make consumers look good. It's easy to get away with being a shitty company like EA when people line up to get "Madden" versus some non-branded sports game.

Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by sehugg on Thursday March 07, 2013 @08:07PM (#5341531)
I would like to have seen SimMars (and SimCastle).

http://www.shacknews.com/article/60839/new-images-of-maxis-c...

Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by LandoCalrissian on Thursday March 07, 2013 @07:39PM (#5341421)
I shed a tear for Westwood studios.
Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by theg2 on Friday March 08, 2013 @01:21AM (#5342289)
Westwood was failing and wasn't going to survive on it's own. It's a sad fact but EA bought them up in order to save the franchises and the jobs of many developers.
Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by cantankerous on Thursday March 07, 2013 @10:44PM (#5341974)
"A Tear?" I'm still in mourning.
Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by vor_ on Friday March 08, 2013 @12:20AM (#5342191)
That cartoon is about Bobby Kotick of Activision.
Re:Amazon stops selling Sim City V over game issues by roc on Friday March 08, 2013 @08:55AM (#5343405)
Yes and EA is openly following the same playbook and has been less-openly following it for years. One could argue Activision took it from EA.