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Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by icelancer on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:21PM (#5306720)
Huh. Balanced offers same-day payouts to Wells Fargo bank accounts and next-day to others if it's before 3 PM PST. I love Stripe, but I hate the 7 day rolling period. I use Square for my in-person transactions and get the money the next day. Why can't Stripe do this?

I wonder if Balanced has good integration with the third-party shopping carts out there...

Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by dangrossman on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:30PM (#5306763)
> Why can't Stripe do this?

There's much higher fraud risk with online card payments than in-person ones. There's both risk that the customer presenting the card number isn't the cardholder, and risk that the merchant is itself a fraudster trying to charge stolen cards, launder money, or accomplish some other illegal act on the network.

Traditional merchant accounts mitigate some of that risk through an extensive underwriting process. Stripe does not have such a process. The only way they can mitigate the risk is by identifying patterns in transaction activity and getting chargebacks/disputes from cardholders. The 7 day period gives them sufficient time to identify the patterns and receive early disputes before the money leaves their control.

Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by icelancer on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:34PM (#5306787)
...

But Balanced offers this.

Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by dangrossman on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:39PM (#5306814)
Do they? Balanced Payouts offers same-day ACH. Do funds captured from credit cards with Balanced Payments instantly enter a balance to fund an outgoing ACH with Balanced Payouts? Credit card transactions don't settle instantly, they're typically batched nightly M-F. I would be surprised to hear they let you withdraw money they don't even have in hand yet.
Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by icelancer on Friday March 01, 2013 @03:59PM (#5306914)
[12:58] <kyleb_> Do you offer next-day payouts for credit card purchases?

[12:58] <@jacobolus> kyleb_: yes, assuming I'm understanding you correctly

[12:59] <@jacobolus> kyleb_: payouts go to bank accounts, and are next business day or same-day with wells fargo bank accounts

[12:59] <kyleb_> I think so. Customer purchases $100 worth of things using a Visa on the website at noon PST. Those funds are disbursed to a bank account via ACH on the next day?

[12:59] <@jacobolus> kyleb_: yep

[12:59] <kyleb_> OK perfect. I wasn't sure if it was bank payments only that were processed next-day, or if credit cards were processed as well next-day

[12:59] <kyleb_> Thanks a lot!

Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by mahmoudimus on Friday March 01, 2013 @04:35PM (#5307089)
We allow you to do this.
Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by flynnwynn on Saturday March 02, 2013 @02:19AM (#5308828)
Well Balanced also offers a service that some claim is illegal: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5299327

And has yet to offer a response other than "thanks!"

I'm also not sure how many customers Balanced has or what kind of volume they're doing, but I suspect that they're taking o a whole lot of risk with next day payouts that Stripe and Braintree refuse to take on. While some businesses may like this, I find it worrisome.

Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by icelancer on Monday March 04, 2013 @03:26AM (#5317274)
Square takes on these risks.
Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by mahmoudimus on Friday March 01, 2013 @04:32PM (#5307069)
Yep, we do this.
Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by ams6110 on Saturday March 02, 2013 @01:04PM (#5310329)
If you want a stand-alone invoicing system with online credit card and ACH payments, WePay.com works pretty well. I have used it for a non-profit group I'm involved in.

They also have an API but I have not really looked into it.

Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by mahmoudimus on Friday March 01, 2013 @11:04PM (#5308408)
Yeah, let us know. I'll definitely hack on an integration for whatever shopping card is easiest for you. We're actually interested in opening up office hours where we help you integrate Balanced in whatever framework you want :P
Re:Why We Switched From Stripe To Balanced by jareau on Friday March 01, 2013 @10:55PM (#5308391)
What specific shopping cart integrations are you interested in seeing?