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Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by pg on Friday March 20, 2009 @02:55PM (#525389)
The main thing I felt at first was relief. For the whole three years we'd endured one disaster after another. There was literally some new mortal threat every few months. When the deal finally closed, the feeling of finally being able to relax was so strong (and so unfamiliar) that I was practically high for several months on it.

When I was in grad school I once had a kidney stone so bad that I ended up in an emergency room on Thanksgiving Day. They gave me some fairly strong opiate intravenously. If you've ever had something like this, you understand the appeal of heroin. Especially coming after a week of being curled up into a ball with pain. The feeling when we sold was a less intense but longer lasting version of this.

In retrospect, we could have made Viaweb a lot less painful by spending/raising less money. That was what made it so stressful. But startups were more expensive then. Or at least, everyone thought they had to be.

Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by 9oliYQjP on Friday March 20, 2009 @03:41PM (#525456)
One day I would love to hear about these disasters. In my own experience I have literally faced utter failure in the face only to somehow manage to bounce back stronger than before.

I've told people that running your own business is a lot like playing one of those racing games where you get 30 seconds to get to the next checkpoint at which point you'll earn yourself more time. On several occasions it has felt like I have literally ran out of time only to coast through a checkpoint and be gifted more time.

Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by ryanwaggoner on Friday March 20, 2009 @05:17PM (#525612)
My favorite description of entrepreneurship is jumping out of a plane and trying to build a parachute before you hit the ground.

Note: I know it's not a perfect analogy. I'm comfortable with that.

Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by staunch on Friday March 20, 2009 @05:48PM (#525656)
I think that's a better analogy for launching a new startup. The racing one more closely matches the on-going experience of running one.
Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by aaronblohowiak on Friday March 20, 2009 @04:58PM (#525565)
"One day I would love to hear about these disasters." - Have you read F@W?
Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by laut on Friday March 20, 2009 @05:34PM (#525640)
I had to guess what F@W means.

The book "Founders at Work": http://www.foundersatwork.com/

Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by randallsquared on Friday March 20, 2009 @04:30PM (#525523)
I haven't managed to sell a business, yet, but when I decided to give up and get a job last year, I got a less intense (and probably less long lasting, though it's still going on to some extent now) version of this. The lack of stress after 7 years of never knowing if there was going to be enough money next month was palpable.
Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by nostrademons on Saturday March 21, 2009 @02:05AM (#525979)
I don't think it's necessarily a money thing, because I experienced the same effect when I folded up my startup and got a job. And I still had enough cash in the bank to do one, maybe two more startups, and was never in any danger of running out of money.

I think it comes from the sudden lack of responsibility. When you're in a startup, everything you do matters: if you succeed, it's because you rocked, and if you fail, it's because you screwed up. This makes you feel incredibly alive, but it's also incredibly stressful. When you go back to collecting a paycheck and have to grotesquely screw up to get fired, all that stress just evaporates, and it's like coming down off a massive high.

I still wanna try it again, and hopefully end up with a success instead of a failure next time. But I felt like I'd reached the end of my endurance when I gave up: I'd given it my 110% and it still wasn't enough given my current experience level. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything though.

Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by randallsquared on Saturday March 21, 2009 @08:05AM (#526089)
I agree that it's not just the money; it's just that the money was what was on my mind all the time, because I was losing/borrowing money rather regularly for 2/3 of that seven years. :) I also plan to try it again, fairly soon, even. It's one reason why I'm working contracts now instead of full-time.
Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by timr on Friday March 20, 2009 @05:24PM (#525629)
"When I was in grad school I once had a kidney stone so bad that I ended up in an emergency room on Thanksgiving Day. They gave me some fairly strong opiate intravenously. If you've ever had something like this, you understand the appeal of heroin. Especially coming after a week of being curled up into a ball with pain."

How weird to use that metaphor. I passed a stone during college, and simply being rid of the pain was an amazing high, without the need for drugs. For a week afterward, I felt as though I had just been born. (Coincidentally, the next time I felt anything close to that euphoria was when I turned in the final draft of my dissertation.)

I suppose that once you've grown accustomed to severe pain, having it removed is a revolution.

Re:ASK PG: What were your first thoughts knowing for sure Vi... by eprogrrrr11 on Friday March 20, 2009 @03:16PM (#525413)
Thank you.

I am wondering that it must have been such a magical moment

- suddenly knowing that the "stress" is gone forever...

I am sure it must change everybody.

Also, I really liked a lot your essay about stuff - this is probably one of my favorites. Also explains why you used to keep using your old powerbook :-)