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Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by a_bonobo on Monday February 18, 2013 @09:17PM (#5242211)
The paper this article is based on is quite old already, and many problems with Crabtree's arguments have been pointed out.

Here's some reading material: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/grrlscientist/2012/nov/14/...

And there's the last HN-thread with a lot of debunking going on: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4818441

And of course, the Flynn effect completely contradicts this, mostly because the Flynn effect is actually based on data (IQ-tests in this case) and not just assumptions like Crabtree did it.

Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by gwern on Monday February 18, 2013 @10:09PM (#5242362)
Some additional reading material: https://plus.google.com/106808239073321070854/posts/jUGVSEg5... comments include my criticism, link to Cochran's criticism, and link to Mitchell's criticism.
Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by mmanfrin on Monday February 18, 2013 @09:17PM (#5242212)
There was literally zero stated evidence for this in the article. He mentions that intelligence is 'genetically fragile', then promotes the idea that because we don't live in hostile environments any more, that those 'fragile genetics' must be going away, and we are therefore less intelligent.

Paradoxically, though, this 'Stanford geneticist' seems to be evidence for his own findings.

Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by kqr2 on Monday February 18, 2013 @09:36PM (#5242270)
This is in contrast to the Flynn effect:

  The Flynn effect is the substantial and long-sustained 
  increase in intelligence test scores measured in many 
  parts of the world from roughly 1930 to the present day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by will_work4tears on Monday February 18, 2013 @10:52PM (#5242493)
Hmm, so as we adapt and excel at our new surroundings we lose skills that are no longer necessary?
Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by a_bonobo on Monday February 18, 2013 @11:21PM (#5242584)
I know it sounds logical, but it's not proven that we loose things that are not needed. You might _randomly_ loose features, but you'll also randomly acquire features. Especially intelligence is such a complicated trait, influenced by so many factors, that randomly loosing intelligence would be based on the random loss of a lot of factors, which is in my opinion highly unlikely.

Just look at all the vestigial crap we still carry around [1]: appendix, tailbone, wisdom teeth, inside corner of the eye, etc. We don't use these yet we don't loose them. And loosing these is propably much, much easier than intelligence, because the development of things like the appendix is controlled by much fewer factors than intelligence.

[1] Which might still have a purpose that we don't know yet, for example the appendix might be important in immune response: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=what-is-th...

Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by thebear on Monday February 18, 2013 @09:15PM (#5242206)
For anybody who feels that there may be something to this, I highly recommend the movie "Idiocracy" with Owen Wilson.
Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by rdouble on Monday February 18, 2013 @09:18PM (#5242213)
Luke Wilson.
Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by thebear on Monday February 18, 2013 @09:22PM (#5242226)
I stand corrected.
Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by odin1415 on Monday February 18, 2013 @09:22PM (#5242229)
A link to the article for those with access http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168952512...
Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by jclos on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @08:41AM (#5244169)
for those without access http://ge.tt/6UxoSsY?c
Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by n3rdy on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @05:03AM (#5243530)
Well on the bright side, this would still close the gap between artificial intelligence and human intelligence a little more.
Re:Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford gen... by datz on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @05:09AM (#5243539)
Bullshit.