http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/15/world/15aid.html?pagewante...
Title: US Groups Helped Nurture Arab Uprisings
Here is another.http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/06/world/africa/weapons-sent-...
The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms
shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year, but
American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that
Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic
militants, according to United States officials and foreign
diplomats.
But in the months before, the Obama administration clearly
was worried about the consequences of its hidden hand in
helping arm Libyan militants, concerns that have not
previously been reported. The weapons and money from Qatar
strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to
become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi
government.All that is provided is the assertion that all (american?) organizations questioning the Chinese government are apparently seen as arms of the United States's campaign against China, which explains why the Chinese government would make this move. What I was asking for any specific evidence that would preclude the much more obvious explanation that the New York Times wrote a story exposing corruption surrounding the Chinese Premier, and the people infiltrating the system were looking for the sources of that information (which is what the New York Times themselves are claiming). Without specific information, all we're left with is that "the Chinese government does not like dissent", and the Arab spring narrative is merely sophistry.
To me, this back-and-forth is reminiscent of "lefter-than-thou" debates I have witnessed before, and they all end up right where they started.
One caveat: it's quite possible that there are US government sponsored probes of Chinese sites, that we are not aware of, and that may be quite extensive and outrageous (to the Chinese government). So this skirmish with the NYT may be part of that larger cold war. This is not the same as saying (as the original comment did) that the Chinese government sees the NYT as a proxy of the US government.
> the New York Times wrote a story exposing corruption surrounding the
> Chinese Premier, and the people infiltrating the system were looking
> for the sources of that information
of: > all (american?) organizations questioning the Chinese government are
> apparently seen as arms of the United States's campaign against China
Wait, what? Do you have any evidence to support that?