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Re:Entrepreneur’s Letter to Obama: Give Americans a Great Ch... by SilasX on Friday January 25, 2013 @03:56PM (#5117580)
>A car with triple the gas mileage is yawn-worthy? How out of touch are you? Do you not believe emissions are a serious problem?

Of course they are, but increasing efficiency is only loosely related to that, due to Jevons Effects:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox

Having more efficient (and probably phallic shaped) vehicles could reduce aggregate emissions ... or, more likely, the lower cost of driving could increase how often it's done.

Unless the newer efficiency is combined with laws that make emissions directly more costly, you're ultimately just bailing from one side of the pool to the other.

But then, if you're going to put those laws in place, then you don't need to reward any one specific technology's creation; you've already incentivized (sorry) any emission-reducing change in behavior, which is a far longer list than any bureaucrat or contest-creator can come up with. Unless, of course, you think that we're going to have separate contests for "make the average distance of worker from workplace less than one mile" or "make average driving distance less than 11k miles/person-year", etc etc etc.

Projects like the "car with ultra-high gas mileage" are instances of a very unproductive mentality when it comes to responsible environmental stewardship: it's a mentality that, stripped of misdirection, says "it's okay to be wasteful, as long as you're wasteful with efficient technology".

Re:Entrepreneur’s Letter to Obama: Give Americans a Great Ch... by youngerdryas on Friday January 25, 2013 @04:44PM (#5117843)
>Projects like the "car with ultra-high gas mileage" are instances of a very unproductive mentality when it comes to responsible environmental stewardship

This is an example of the perfect being the enemy of the good. To a partisan all pragmatism is bad.

Re:Entrepreneur’s Letter to Obama: Give Americans a Great Ch... by SilasX on Friday January 25, 2013 @05:09PM (#5117977)
It's more like "feel-good being the enemy of the good". Without other good policies, a more efficient car has ~zero expected benefit. With the other good policies, the more efficient car is marginally relevant.

Pure, unadulterated feel-good-ism.

Re:Entrepreneur’s Letter to Obama: Give Americans a Great Ch... by youngerdryas on Friday January 25, 2013 @05:31PM (#5118086)
Better fuel efficiency is bad. Welcome to bizarro world!
Re:Entrepreneur’s Letter to Obama: Give Americans a Great Ch... by SilasX on Friday January 25, 2013 @05:39PM (#5118131)
The bizarro world where improved efficiency of coal use led to more coal use, rather than people miraculously keeping the same pattern of behavior despite the increased utility of using coal?

The bizarro world where nobody ever increases their fuel use in response to its greater effectiveness of use?

The bizarro world where people can feel like they've said something insightful simply because they're advocating greater fuel efficiency regardless of how poorly they understand the system in which it operates?

Re:Entrepreneur’s Letter to Obama: Give Americans a Great Ch... by youngerdryas on Friday January 25, 2013 @05:48PM (#5118182)
Apparently less efficiency would be better. I think we're done here.
Re:Entrepreneur’s Letter to Obama: Give Americans a Great Ch... by ori_b on Friday January 25, 2013 @05:59PM (#5118234)
If your goal is purely to reduce amount of oil being burned, then making it impractically expensive to use oil-burning machines works. Making them extremely inefficient is one way to go about this.
Re:Entrepreneur’s Letter to Obama: Give Americans a Great Ch... by youngerdryas on Friday January 25, 2013 @06:30PM (#5118391)
Making things inefficient is for corrupt officials.
Re:Entrepreneur’s Letter to Obama: Give Americans a Great Ch... by SilasX on Friday January 25, 2013 @06:43PM (#5118446)
You're certainly done thinking carefully about the issue, and have been for a while...