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Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by SoftTalker on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:07AM (#50485567)
Reducing the deficit by any substantial amount means cutting entitlements or raising taxes substantially. That's political suicide (not that political suicide wasn't already committed by this administration).
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by vkou on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:11AM (#50485620)
Energy prices for Joe Average can be stabilized by having non-essential users (AI data centers) subsidize everyone else through taxes or controlled rates.
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by JumpCrisscross on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:22AM (#50485773)
> subsidize everyone else

Just households. The inverse of what Germany did.

Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by treis on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:26AM (#50485839)
That's not realistically possible. The point of raising rates is cut usage of everyone else to free up capacity for data centers.
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by vkou on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:40AM (#50486040)
It absolutely is. In a crisis, like the one we are in, the high-margin non-essential uses should subsidize the low-margin essential ones.
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by treis on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:53AM (#50486220)
A crisis doesn't magically create generating capacity.

Say a system had X capacity and 100% utilization. Now someone wants to build a data center that consumes 0.1X power. Demand is now 1.1X and to prevent the system from going over capacity 0.1X of pre-existing demand has to be destroyed.

Subsidizing other users makes the problem worse because they will increase their energy usage in response to the lower prices.

Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by JumpCrisscross on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:57AM (#50486289)
I'm a huge fan of a household allotment to a reasonable amount followed by market rates for everyone. We can start with water and electricity.

Every household gets X gallons of water a month at a regulated rate. After that, everyone competes equally.

Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by irishcoffee on Friday November 13, 2026 @02:32PM (#50488564)
Lots of people are in well water and lots of people have solar.

Regulation and increased taxes/fees just make everything more obtuse and expensive, not better or simpler.

Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by vkou on Friday November 13, 2026 @03:22PM (#50489110)
Simpler isn't always the thing to optimize for when people can't afford to heat their homes.

But you're right, we could also solve this problem very simply, without gradiated utility rates, by taxing the crap out of corporate profits and redistributing them to everyone else. This would punish corps who aren't building data centers, but if you don't mind turning the whole country into an AI server farm, I guess that would work too.

Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by SoftTalker on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:16PM (#50486567)
So you require the data center to pay for increasing generating capacity by 1.1X as part of its permitting.
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by treis on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:37PM (#50486888)
They do but that also does not magically create supply.
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by SoftTalker on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:41PM (#50486967)
What? Maybe I wasn't clear, but I meant that you make them pay for increasing the supply.
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by treis on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:51PM (#50487119)
I understand but it takes time to build power plants. You still have the same immediate capacity problem and need to reduce demand until the new supply comes online.
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by vkou on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:48PM (#50487070)
No, but energy is sold at market prices, and money is fungible and money can be moved.

Money does, in fact, create generating capacity, as expensive, idling energy sources are turned up.

Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by JumpCrisscross on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:21AM (#50485761)
> Reducing the deficit by any substantial amount means cutting entitlements or raising taxes substantially

2016's $585bn DoD budget [1] bought what $817bn does today [2]. 2027's NDAA requests $1.1 trillion [3]. On top of like $100bn–on par with Saudi Arabia's military budget–we gave to ICE.

I'd generally consider myself a defence hawk. I think we should support Ukraine. I value our commitments to Korea and Taiwan. But what in the actual fuck are we doing blowing an already-bloated deficit on checks notes a WW2 battleship.

[1] https://dodcio.defense.gov/Portals/0/Documents/Library/2016%...

[2] https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

[3] https://comptroller.war.gov/Portals/45/Documents/defbudget/F...

Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by Acrobatic_Road on Friday November 13, 2026 @06:21PM (#50491572)
The elephant in the room is still Medicare and Social Security. Not only are they a much larger share of federal spending, they are growing much faster than the budget as a whole. If we froze spending on these programs today, over the long term the budget would essentially balance itself due to rising tax revenue combined with the slow grower growth of discretionary spending. The CBO models that scenario in their "payable benefits scenario". Remember, Congress has to re-authorize defense spending so the defense budget doesn't grows unless Congress wants it to. Entitlements on the other hand, are on auto-pilot!
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by bryanlarsen on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:23AM (#50485782)
The independent ability of the Fed to do unpopular things is one of the strengths of the American system. Carter paid the price politically to establish it; subsequent politicians have benefited for decades subsequent.
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by gunsle on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:23AM (#50485790)
Entitlements absolutely need to be cut. It’s beyond unsustainable already and it will get worse and worse. As you’ve mentioned, it’s political suicide, so most likely nothing will change and we will keep getting massive government overspending and inflation.
Re:U.S. October PPI Rises 6.5% YoY, Highest in Nearly Four Y... by JumpCrisscross on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:40AM (#50486048)
> Entitlements absolutely need to be cut

Or taxes raised. I'm personally a fan of adding a few and then doubling all tax brackets.