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Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by 8by3 on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:59AM (#50481002)
My view, as someone who was flat out "AI is a hype scam" up until around Jan this year. It was hype for a while, and forms of it are still very much hype, but the reality is catching up with the hype.

I.e the reality has so far been ~2 years behind the hype.

I'm not saying I like these companies, or that I think the economics of any of them is sane. Just saying LLM's are capable.

Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by hypfer on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:02AM (#50481036)
Sure, but these are still astroturfing bots, and treating the messages as anything else but that helps them achieve their goals.
Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by lavendermon on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:15AM (#50481167)
Interesting that you think I'm a bot
Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by hypfer on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:21AM (#50481234)
Well that's one option. It could also be someone that is paid. It could be someone who drank the Kool aid. It could be someone financially invested

Or it could be a kid that watched too many tech YouTubers.

But, fundamentally, that doesn't matter, because functionally it's as described.

Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by lookimanewacc on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:27AM (#50481333)
Look, I'm a new account, a dev and I'm a human last I checked.

I am not alone in dropping a positive AI message once in a while without having "an account" which is an outdated, useless notion anyway.

I find the greybeards unbearably stuck in anti-AI psychosis. People like myself have been saying LLMs are capable for years and were nothing but stigmatized and ignored. But now ya'll are seeing the light? A little tardy to the party. Again. Always late, but with a big mouth.

Cut a long story short: I don't gaf about Anthropic or any American company for that matter but I also don't gaf what happens to shortsighted big mouth developers that need literal years to see what was obvious on day one. No longer do I need to bow down to these types and it's extraordinarily liberating. In my company the dickhead sysadmins are falling one by one and it's gorgeous. Good luck memorizing manpages and obscure pf settings, because that's what we really need now. Humans memorizing things and calculating because that's what we're really great at. Great long-term strategizing there Newton.

Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by hypfer on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:38AM (#50481478)
We're now at three fresh accounts and one additional greybearded anti AI strawman.
Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by torginus on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:22AM (#50481264)
I was out for 2 weeks, and our resident meat proxies on my team managed to half-destroy the project by doing everything the way AI wanted to, instead of how the company systems work, introduced like half a dozen cross-connections across barriers that should never be crossed, introduced a parallel artifact repo, permissions system, and different build tooling to what the rest use (including what the current project was built with), and managed to create a lot of drama with external teams who refused to work with these new systems.

AI still needs lots of guidance, and might seem like a genius that does everything on its own, until you give it to people who can't guide it and things begin spiraling out of control.

Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by 8by3 on Friday November 13, 2026 @06:04AM (#50481764)
The same could easily have happened pre LLMs (just slower). Its why things like ArchUnit existed, or style guides, or annoying architects who stopped engineers from using latest JS framework pre LLMs, to define high level requirements for software.

I try to avoid justifying my own existence, but its a reason why I think skilled engineers are way more productive using LLM's than person off the street. Because they can confine them. Though there is no technical reason that ability can't be codified.

Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by torginus on Friday November 13, 2026 @06:59AM (#50482269)
I don't think it'd have been likely. First, pre-LLM, people read code 90% of the time and wrote it 10% of the time - so the flow would've been to first understand the exsiting code and figure out how to interact with it, and/or asking others when stuck, rather than just plowing ahead with the favorite set of tools that particular LLM has
Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by the_af on Friday November 13, 2026 @08:51AM (#50483477)
> The same could easily have happened pre LLMs (just slower).

"Slower" is doing a lot of work there. It's the difference between an engineer or two wrecking havoc doing a major refactor and convincing a manager that it's ok while you're away on vacation, and the same engineers failing to convince the manager because it will take forever, and quietly dropping the project after hitting the first roadblock.

"How long is this going to take?": "a week" vs "a quarter" makes a huge difference.

Extreme speed is a form of quality; the fear is that it enables bad things to happen.

Re:The Dawn of the Data Intelligence Engineer by 8by3 on Friday November 13, 2026 @10:09AM (#50484668)
I've actually been thinking about this issues for a while, that agents are way more successful if they have a decent architect guiding them vs. full vibe.

I've been solo prenuering for the last year so didn't have a lot of data from others but your comment convinced me its a problem worth solving, so I put this together https://vitruvius.8by3.com/

Its hard wip, pushed seconds ago, paint still wet. But the idea is to "enforce" good architectural practices for your agents. Can store constrains and ADRs in git so everyone in a team (everyones agents) can read from the same page.