Yea, impossible to know whether it's supposed to go by atomic mass, frequency or some other metric. Plus most people off the top of their heads don't really have these stats memorized. With OpenAI and Anthropic it's way more straightforward.
Yeah. Atomic mass: Makes no sense, argon is larger than carbon. Frequency: Makes no sense, argon is least frequent of the three and hydrogen is everywhere, so carbon would be in-between rather than the flagship.
Letters of the alphabet: Also makes no sense. There was a theory that Argon = A, that there was an unreleased B model (Bismuth or Barium or something), Carbon = C, etc. (Similar to Intel's MMORPG-inspired Alchemist --> Battlemage --> Celestial...) Hydrogen broke this notion.
It's just completely incoherent.
Now written out like this, I can see a D = Deuterium, which is mass 2 or heavy hydrogen, but somewhere along along the line it was lost in translation.
I’m not sure if the average person on the street would know the terms Luna, Terra, Sol, and especially Astra.
Also, the biggest being Astra is a bit confusing. Sol is also a star.
Furthermore, unless you know they’re supposed to be ordered by size you can’t know which is best.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen
by petesergeant on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:00PM
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> I’m not sure if the average person on the street would know the terms Luna, Terra, Sol, and especially Astra.
I don't think these are as difficult as you're making them sound? I think the majority of people who will care what model they're using will know "lunar", "terrestrial", "solar", "astronomy" etc?
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen
by postepowanieadm on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:18PM
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Corsa, Astra, Vectra and Omega would be better names.
I never made these connections until now. This will really help me remember which is which, I honestly had just given up.
when you put it this way, it sounds like they are operating on an XY axis (at least) vs a continuum. Argon big, complicated, slow AND expensive; Carbon abundant, widely available, costly; Hydrogen, abundant, volatile, cheap. can't imagine how insane Nitrogen must be
Sometimes I wonder if naming things is hard or what.
Google genuinely have made a huge mess with their AI product stack. They have Antigravity, Antigravity IDE, Gemini app, AI Studio, etc. They have too many similarly named and confusing products. Google should seriously fire their branding team and bring some new talent to consolidate and restructure things logically.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen
by Abstract_Typist on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:10PM
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Maybe the AI is trying to tell us its real name !
Ar - C - H - ?
If the next two are oxygen and nitrogen, which are plausible, that would be somewhat sinister.
[delayed]
They botched it.
A haiku is a short poem. A sonnet is a longer work. An opus is a great work. Mythos is a connected body of works.
As with Open AI, Luna --> Terra --> Sol --> Astra from smallest to largest. Very straightforward.
With Google it's totally incoherent. Hydrogen --> Argon --> Carbon!?
Hydrogen is small, but it's the most abundant element in the universe by far. Argon is >3x larger than carbon by molecular mass, though carbon is more abundant. It's impossible to determine what's supposed to be smaller and what's supposed to be larger.