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Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by aizk on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:33PM (#50471948)
It's starting to feel like OpenAI is in 3rd place now. Really eager to see how / if they can claw their way back up.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by vander_elst on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:43PM (#50472110)
Wait 1 week top, they'll release something soon for sure
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by jauntywundrkind on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:38PM (#50473003)
And hopefully this time for them they don't have to release a new rev the week after.

I wonder now that Terra-6 is out how it would compare to Sol-6. (Which was replaced a week latter by sol-6.1 after chat got dropped opus 5.5 to incredible fanfare then sonnet 5.5 that radically upped the medium model ability).

Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by WarmWash on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:46PM (#50472166)
All the labs are holding back releases now, not necessarily to play games, but to make sure alignment is right. These models are teetering on the edge of "One person can seriously damage digital infrastructure" and an event like "Teenage kid uses Claude to bring Wells Fargo to it's knees for 6 hours" would be absolutely catastrophic for the whole industry.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by IMTDb on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:58PM (#50472371)
> Teenage kid uses Claude to bring Wells Fargo to it's knees for 6 hours" would be absolutely catastrophic for the whole industry.

It would (rightfully) be catastrophic for wells fargo. And great for the industry. If your security model relies on children not having access to things state actors can leverage, your in for a rude awakening.

Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by deaux on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:08PM (#50472541)
Then you are in for one too because your personal security relies on that, guaranteed. So does everyone's.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by IMTDb on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:30PM (#50472877)
And the sooner that goes away, the happer I am. My confiendence in the orange dude, Winnie the pooh and their friends is honestly close to 0.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by WarmWash on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:26PM (#50473699)
Right now it's looking like the security model for everyone is "Does or doesn't have access to SOTA LLMs"

Hence why they are gating model releases. Even Chinese models are doing this as Kimi K3 shipped with a lobotomized cyber sec ability. The major labs all have invite only cyber models too.

Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by IMTDb on Thursday November 12, 2026 @04:00PM (#50474206)
> Does or doesn't have access to SOTA LLMs

“Security by availability” doesn’t seem really different to me from “security by obscurity” which has already been proven to be complete bullshit.

Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by matt4711 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:48PM (#50472188)
I would expect a new release from them soon to climb back up.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by objektif on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:24PM (#50473658)
Heavy user of all models here and Astra is million miles ahead of everything.