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Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by jawns on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:14PM (#50471630)
The naming is ridiculous.

In order of power and cost: Hydrogen -> Argon -> Carbon

It's no longer ordered alphabetically.

And it never was ordered by atomic mass, which is clearly the best ordering if you're naming your model classes after elements.

Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by InsideOutSanta on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:21PM (#50471753)
I know some people are still a bit confused by astra, sol, terra, and luna, but at least you can explain the reasoning and it makes sense. Google's new naming scheme is just pure luna...cy.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by flakiness on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:22PM (#50471758)
I now believe that they're trolling.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by Iolaum on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:22PM (#50471764)
I don't know why but this post reminded me of the show(books) Altered Carbon.

Also totally agree. What a bad way to name models...

Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by gpm on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:22PM (#50471765)
Density at standard temperature and pressure? Carbon admittedly has a number of forms at STP but they're all solid and thus heavier than argon gas.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by daemonologist on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:23PM (#50471784)
Density of the most common (on Earth) allotropes at STP, perhaps?
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by jrflo on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:24PM (#50471800)
The choice is really odd. Hydrogen and Carbon could have an organic chemistry theme going if they chose Oxygen, but then they go with Argon? Anthropic and Open AI have the names figured out in terms of obvious size: Luna->Terra->Sol->Astra and Haiku->Sonnet->Opus->Fable->Mythos makes intuitive sense. I have no idea how the Google model size class works.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by aquariusDue on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:27PM (#50471853)
Yeah, they really fumbled the naming scheme for this batch of models.

At this point even using Starbucks sizes would be better.

Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by wry_xy on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:27PM (#50471864)
We'll know they've achieved super intelligence when tech companies suddenly have sensible product names.
Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by amanda4 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:28PM (#50471879)
Per Business Insider[0], Argon and Carbon were part of an alphabetical lineup:

> An internal document shows that Google has tested a series of Gemini 4 models, internally named Argon, Barium, and Carbon.

Then I suppose they tacked on Hydrogen since it's supposed to be a "light" model and hydrogen is the lightest element. I agree that it's super confusing though.

[0] https://www.businessinsider.com/google-employees-test-new-ge...

Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by leonpillow on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:28PM (#50471888)
nodejs release names

alphabetical skipping the weird names

next would be iron krypton and lithium

Re:Gemini 4 Hydrogen by mattlondon on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:35PM (#50471979)
+1 to this the naming is totally opaque and ridiculous.

There is no hint of what each one does. I get that these were internal code names, fine, but to everyone outside Google it's not helpful to have these meaningless names.

ChatGPT and Claude aren't much better - there is still quite a lot of assumed knowledge there assuming you know what e.g. a sonnet is and what an opus is - but at least if you squint there is something there.

Google's names just seem to be randomly generated.

Maybe they were worried that the 3.1 Pro model being around for so lunch ruined the brand? But 3.8 Flash was pretty decent I thought so it's not like "flash" was burnt. I dunno.