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Re:Why are we still working this hard? by smallmancontrov on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @03:40PM (#50458366)
The industrialists tried to coup FDR. They filled the air waves and newspapers with paid opinions about how his pro-labor policy would sink the economy. And then it didn't. Not only did it not sink the economy, it led to arguably the greatest period of middle class prosperity ever seen.
Re:Why are we still working this hard? by rockemsockem on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @03:44PM (#50458420)
I think there was another small event that occurred around the same time that confounds things a bit. An event which VERY heavily involved industrialists.
Re:Why are we still working this hard? by smallmancontrov on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @04:11PM (#50458726)
No, it wasn't just war profiteering: many countries which were on the wrong side of that equation also saw an unprecedented elevation of the middle class. That is the opposite of what you would expect in a war profiteering story, but it's exactly what you would expect in a labor bargaining power story.
Re:Why are we still working this hard? by 9rx on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @04:23PM (#50458883)
Funnily enough, there is a compelling argument that France adopting the 40 hour work week weakened its army and that is what encouraged Hitler to become aggressive. That small event might never have occurred without the 40 hour work week.
Re:Why are we still working this hard? by smallmancontrov on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @04:40PM (#50459090)
Mmmhmm. Every little labor victory helps Hitler, dontcha know? You wouldn't want to help Hitler, would ya?

These arguments were omnipresent at the time but they suddenly faded away when Hitler got his ass kicked. I wonder why?

Re:Why are we still working this hard? by 9rx on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @04:46PM (#50459139)
You might want to revisit the history books. WWII didn't help Hitler.
Re:Why are we still working this hard? by smallmancontrov on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @05:01PM (#50459293)
My point exactly: why do you think the anti-labor arguments that rhyme with yours went away when Hitler got his ass kicked?
Re:Why are we still working this hard? by 9rx on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @05:08PM (#50459382)
It didn't go away...? We wouldn't be able to have this discussion if it did.

I have no idea what you are trying to get at. If it is that wars can be won by working 40 hours per week, that is highly unlikely to be true. The 40 hour work weeks went by the wayside during the war. The US, for example, mandated a minimum of 48 hour workweeks in manufacturing during the war.