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Re:We need more goat sacrifices by shit_game on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @09:55AM (#50454205)
> One of my favorite genres of psychology experiment is called something like: “the study is probably bullshit but the effect is probably real”. At the top of that heap is The Illusion of Control, a classic from 1975 and a favorite of Psych 101 classes everywhere. Usually, this study gets summarized as “people value their lottery tickets more when you let them pick the numbers vs. when you pick the numbers for them.” It’s as if people think that the mere act of picking imbues their ticket with a bit of juju, which makes them less willing to part with it.

> That would be a beautiful study, but it wasn’t the study that was actually conducted. The “lottery tickets” in question were in fact football cards, each one with a picture of a player, their team, etc. Some participants were given the opportunity to choose their football card and some had a card handed to them. Later, just before the drawing, all of the participants were asked how much it would take to buy their card back. On average, the pickers asked for $8.67, while the not-pickers said $1.86.4

> I’m sure you can see the obvious and less exciting explanation for these results: when people were given the chance, they picked their favorite players. The people who didn’t get to pick ended up with a card they liked less. This “illusion of control” effect is merely a “reality of people having preferences and acting on them” effect.5

Alternatively, people who are knowledgeable of a subject will have selfishly biased opinions about it, which they value more than unknowledgeable people will value an arbitrary stance on the subject. From experience, this seems to affect things beyond situations of chance like lotteries, and infests collaborations like businesses in ways such as Not Invented Here Syndrome or generally poor management choices that fail to consider situational factors (e.g. overarching decrees that are ineffective in certain situations/locations/applications).

Re:We need more goat sacrifices by cucumber3732842 on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @12:25PM (#50455949)
>Alternatively, people who are knowledgeable of a subject will have selfishly biased opinions about it, which they value more than unknowledgeable people will value an arbitrary stance on the subject. From experience, this seems to affect things beyond situations of chance like lotteries, and infests collaborations like businesses in ways such as Not Invented Here Syndrome or generally poor management choices that fail to consider situational factors (e.g. overarching decrees that are ineffective in certain situations/locations/applications).

And the ignorant are always the loudest.

The fresh minted safety guy with his shiny new clipboard and vest is a fool running around the plant spewing rabid idiocy straight out of the internet comment section.

His boss who's been doing things for a decade is more measured, knows you can't tell a guy how to use a screwdriver if you also want to tell him how to use a ladder

Re:We need more goat sacrifices by asdff on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @02:14PM (#50457260)
A lot of lottery players will say use a birthday or something. Kind of interesting to think about this as deciding on pure random search or setting a seed and sampling that seed over the space. The behavior becomes much less about juju and maybe more an actual functional one with some biological utility, this ability to sample a defined input across a function set. The lottery aspect is almost blinding the point of why it might be useful to think like that.
Re:We need more goat sacrifices by Ntrails on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:53AM (#50464684)
About (dear lord) 30 years ago when the national lottery came to the shores of Britain, my family had the neighbours over and there was some faux hand holding "seance/trance" make-pretend, with us spitting out numbers for the very first lottery ticket. We won a tenner!

Silliness of the highest order. I still have those numbers written down. They've got the same chance as any other set - but this set are _mine_. I might just be the only person alive who was there, now I reflect upon it. Huh

Re:We need more goat sacrifices by quietbritishjim on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:27AM (#50465708)
> A lot of lottery players will say use a birthday or something.

Ironically, this makes the ticket less valuable.

You can't do anything to change the probability of winning, but you can change the probability of winning at the same time as other players (which affects the size of the winnings). By picking birthdays (i.e. forcing the numbers to be in the first 30 or so), your prize, if you do win, is likely to be smaller than a really random selection.