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Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by carlosjobim on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:55AM (#50441258)
Are these people better off somewhere else?
Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by Zigurd on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:57AM (#50441303)
Look at where the US ranks and quality of life measures.
Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by bluGill on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:09AM (#50441471)
There is no good way to measure quality of life. Honest measures of Norway and the US (picking two "rich countries" at random) will have a lot of "it depends" and error bars and in the end concluding they are statistically equal.

If your information doesn't have those error bars it is just a feel good headline to make someone feel better about themselves by putting others down - this is EVIL and you shouldn't fall for it!

Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by Zigurd on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:18AM (#50441609)
There are at least four widely accepted measures of quality of life, and the US ranks at the bottom of the top 10 of one of them. Are you really sure that you're smarter than all the economist and sociologists who put those measures together? Or maybe we've screwed it up and needs to purge a lot of poison from our system.
Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by bluGill on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:41AM (#50441943)
I don't have to know anything about them to tell you they are worthless poison that should be purged. Well is is possible that they are useful for some niche and should never be taken outside of that narrow context.

There are far too many subjective parts of quality of life to ever put a single ranking on them.

Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by throw-the-towel on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @11:41AM (#50442783)
Did you just claim being at the bottom of the top 10 countries in the entire world is bad?
Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by AnkitGuptaTruth on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:56AM (#50441286)
If they aren't why are we so sure they would be so useful here?
Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by Varelion on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:56AM (#50441274)
Yeah, from what I understand those that leave are living much better lives. Wive has a Masters in Biotech and is being pulled to European opportunities.
Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by carlosjobim on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:10AM (#50441493)
Those who are leaving are certainly leaving for better opportunities and better lives. Otherwise they would stay, or at least not be away for long.

But would everyone except for "obscenely rich people" be better off somewhere else? If so, then where, and why aren't they leaving by the tens of millions for those places?

Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by Varelion on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @11:53AM (#50442967)
> If so, then where, and why aren't they leaving by the tens of millions for those places?

Because life is messy. Because leaving is expensive. Because being accepted into a successful country requires opportunities and circumstances.

Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by zemoerfi on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:00AM (#50441343)
Almost certainly. Quality of life for well educated people is absolutely higher in many parts of the world. Whether you are in parts of Europe, New Zealand, east Asia, you can definitely land in better places.

The idea that the US is "the best place to live" is a persistent cultural myth. It's mostly good for a lot of classes of people, but even that's changing as of late.

Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by bluGill on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:05AM (#50441414)
Western Europe and New Zealand are great places to live (east Asia is too big - I had to qualify Europe as well for similar reasons). However the US is also a great place to live. You cannot many any universal statement that one is better than another. There are pros and cons, but for the most part things are similar, and the difference is only slightly different sets of trade offs. In the US you will probably make more income which can lead to better quality of life in the form of things you can buy - but things you can buy isn't everything (and there are people who would make less in the US)
Re:The U.S. Is Driving Away Young Scientists by zemoerfi on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @10:10AM (#50441492)
The expression "parts of" means "not all of". I didn't want to type out every neighborhood in Japan, Korea, China, etc.