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Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by EMM_386 on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:15PM (#50433036)
It's worse than that.

> Google Photos data is used to infer your interests, relationships to people in your photos, and where you've been, including by associating your face with corresponding location data and timestamps. This data is also used to do things for you, like look up your info or add items to your grocery list, and to improve Google services, including training generative AI.

How does that work exactly if the images aren't even real and are generated by AI? When Google siphons up these photos to help them train their AI, the AI is now going to make associations as depicted in that photograph?

That you really were with that person, in that place, in that situation, on that date? As some sort of a fact?

Can someone else create that image and just put it in their library and then have that become a fact on your behalf when picked up, analyzed and trained on?

Where does that all lead?

Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by heikkilevanto on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:04PM (#50433616)
I have tried to degoogle my life. I already have a way to get my photos to my own server. But how can I take photos on my phone without google getting their fingers into them?
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by taneq on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:17PM (#50434368)
I switched to iOS as the lesser of two evils. Sure, for all their supposed privacy focus Apple does some sketchy stuff too, but at least my personal data is a little bit siloed this way.

I did run CyanogenMod / LineageOS for several years but the reliability I needed just wasn’t there. This may have improved since then, though.

Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by gib444 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:48AM (#50436904)
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Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by k1t on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @02:20AM (#50437112)
Bit of a tangent, but +1 for FolderSync.

I was looking for things like backing up my phone contents to a PC or syncing a music/photo library to my phone and the options I found were brittle python scripts using adb.

FolderSync does exactly what I want and just works. No affiliation just happy customer/user.

Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by littlecranky67 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @02:37AM (#50437229)
Proton.
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by comboy on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @05:18AM (#50438257)
I like Ente.
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by xlayn on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:14PM (#50433713)
Leads to people start calling their senator and start pushing to regulate and break apart every big tech... just as they torrent everything (whoops), they will access everything...
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by reorder9695 on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:18PM (#50433764)
I have never been more glad to have moved to a self hosted immich server on an old laptop.
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by topaztee on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:51PM (#50434103)
i need to do this. bit scared my old laptop will die suddently and all my photos will be lost
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by agumonkey on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:57PM (#50434160)
never tried 1-2-3 rule of backups ?

(me neither, but i should)

Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by topaztee on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:02PM (#50434218)
me neither, but i should
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by kevg123 on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:02PM (#50434212)
Attach a USB hard drive and create a nightly rsync job
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by jbverschoor on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @07:03AM (#50439117)
Fire or theft and all is gone. Great advice!
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by sirtaj on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @07:45AM (#50439579)
It is, actually. It's the first step of a 3-2-1 backup strategy. For most people, this is a massive, huge improvement by itself.

I wouldn't recommend rsync though, better something that can allow you to get back files you deleted before the last backup.

Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by kevg123 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @08:20AM (#50439912)
Encrypted hard drive for theft. For fire, I have another backup that I take periodically and put into storage.
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by taneq on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:13PM (#50434329)
That feeling is your cue to do something about it. Don’t let best be the enemy of good. Automatic backups are great, but if you have irreplaceable data that it would pain you to lose, go get an external hard drive and dump it all on that, right now.
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by mdavidn on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:31PM (#50434485)
Use Arq to send a snapshot to S3 daily, encrypted with a key you keep safe separately.
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by cyberclimb on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @09:08AM (#50440617)
checkout https://github.com/restic/restic you can automate taking incremental backups and shipping them to another location (e.g S3 bucket) which are encrypted by restic so not even AWS can decode them.

You could setup some lifecycles in the bucket as well to prefer deep glacier storage for the cheapest storage tier

Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by Gigachad on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:13PM (#50434334)
As soon as AI started blowing up I rushed all of my data out of Google and to self hosted. It's obvious they were going to suck it all up in to their training and analyze everything to build a perfect profile on you. They always were but the capabilities are supercharged now.

Immich + Nextcloud + Dawarich behind Tailscale has been a dream. I picked up a second hand HP mini PC for cheap, 3D printed a mini server rack to mount it in with some hard drives.

Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by reorder9695 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @07:46AM (#50439584)
I just use a wireguard VPN with a domain name I already had and DDNS configured, what benefits does Tailscale bring for a situation where only a couple of devices need access?
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by jkman on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @12:59PM (#50443778)
It Just Works
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by gib444 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @01:45AM (#50436882)
Rclone/restic to B2
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by scuttlebutt98 on Monday November 09, 2026 @07:15PM (#50434351)
Most modern AI models carry watermarks embedded in images and text, so they can know if something is AI or not. These are probably detected and discarded from the training set.
Re:Google Gemini routes personal Drive files and emails to h... by EMM_386 on Tuesday November 10, 2026 @03:21PM (#50445772)
That is nowhere near sufficient.

You can go grab a model off Hugging Face and install ComfyUI and make as many as you want - right now - on consumer hardware. Not watermarked and very realistic.

And there are techniques to remove watermarks as well.

That is a losing battle on that front. It has to be taken on by not allowing for this behavior that Google is doing. Which I have no solution to.