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Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by bhouston on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:38PM (#50419443)
> At the same time I wonder if we are entering an era in which it’s just better to build your own tools

I wonder if Claude Code and other similar tools start to maintain their own base apps that everyone keeps asking for? This would be like a "cache" that makes the requests cheaper/easier to deliver?

Then everyone's "own" apps is really just a customization layer on top of a solid base that already does all the heavy lifting.

Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by guhidalg on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:41PM (#50419466)
Sigh... are we really just going to re-invent plugins?
Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by bhouston on Sunday November 08, 2026 @08:07PM (#50419673)
We do need a safe layer for non-engineers to customize apps.

All these clones of Photoshop and similar tools are mostly dead ends, they are experiments to see if you can do it, but there will be a consolidation around regularly maintained and powerful and complete apps that likely also offer support.

These experiments are dead-ends for the most part long-term. Fun play things, but they will not gain significantly user bases.

Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by t-writescode on Sunday November 08, 2026 @08:51PM (#50419984)
Isn't this more of an argument to use common OSS choices? Like, encourage people to use Blender for 3d modelling; LibreOffice for documents; Gimp, Krita, or one of the many other art programs for ... art; OBS for simple video stuff; and so on and so forth?
Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by stonogo on Sunday November 08, 2026 @11:40PM (#50421135)
> We do need a safe layer for non-engineers to customize apps.

Why? Every time someone cripples software in the name of safety it just gets replaced with more capable software that isn't.

Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by Gigachad on Monday November 09, 2026 @12:13AM (#50421335)
Plugins have long been troubled. It’s hard to make a plugin interface that is actually useful while also not breaking on every app update. And plugins have been such a massive vector for distributing malware.
Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by socalgal2 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:44PM (#50420813)
I guess I'm too used to the collaboration features of word processors like Google Docs. If I build my own, those go out the window otherwise everyone has to sign up for my word processor and learn my word processor's UX.

For the rest, at least so far, I haven't had the collaboration experience but for word processors I can't go back to local files that can't easily be edited/viewed/commented on by multiple people

Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by ripplarity on Sunday November 08, 2026 @11:25PM (#50421063)
yes but tons of new features introduced making things interesting
Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by Gigachad on Monday November 09, 2026 @12:12AM (#50421326)
We have existing tools for this. You fork the repo of the closest thing and have AI tune it to exactly what you want.
Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by dirkc on Monday November 09, 2026 @01:35AM (#50421873)
I'm pretty sure this already happens to some extend. Look at the default website output you get from the different models, there tends to be a 'default' look/approach it takes.

I think they all have been post-trained on specific tasks like building sites, apps, etc and that is a large part of the reason they are pretty good at it.

Re:KetchUp – Open-source SketchUp alternative built with Rus... by mastermage on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:41AM (#50422358)
Honestly i think that now is the chance for established software to go with the flow and I think the major way to go with the flow is create are adapt software to be extensible (so that everyone can let claude or opencode or whatever add their functionality of choice without having to rebuilt the wheel from scratch everytime) and secondly direct mcp access to the software itself.