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Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by lakeviewterrace on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:00PM (#50419127)
Funny, they have no problem handling mail for essentially every Fortune 500 company and others large and small.

It's always people self-hosting mail on a shared server in Moldova (because they think it makes them cool) that are complaining.

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by pacija on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:17PM (#50419280)
Nope, people self-hosting mail on their own hardware from their own basement in Serbia ;)

https://www.mimar.rs/blog/a-journey-of-my-mx-server-to-new-r...

And yes, it's cool not to have to let scum read your private communications :D

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by pembrook on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:41PM (#50419467)
Self hosting mail on a shared server in Moldova is basically the entire idea decentralized idea behind email.

Which with cheap models like Jev as spam classifiers, this can now become a reality.

The problem is, Google and Microsoft have monopolized the entire email market, so their esoteric deliverability mysticism from 2007 still persists.

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by lakeviewterrace on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:43PM (#50419483)
People used to have party lines and leave their doors unlocked too, but it turns out the world is filled with bad actors and other assorted shitty people.

Email naturally followed this evolution.

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by qup on Sunday November 08, 2026 @09:54PM (#50420442)
Some of us still leave our doors unlocked, too.

I've never even had the key to mine. I've lived here over a decade.

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by dualvariable on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:55PM (#50420886)
So naturally everyone should just leave e-mail to be run by all the corporations.

You shouldn't own your car or your house, give them to all the corporations as well.

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by lakeviewterrace on Monday November 09, 2026 @12:04AM (#50421286)
Nothing is stopping you and your three friends from running your own SMTP servers and emailing each other.

As soon as you want to do business with Outlook's customers, you play by their rules.

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by sirtaj on Monday November 09, 2026 @12:24AM (#50421395)
This is one thing I find more on Hacker News than most other discussion sites. Any topic about annoying or bad behaviour by corporations eventually devolves to "they're allowed to do it".

"They're allowed to do it" is one of those things that doesn't really bear saying so much because that's already been implicitly established. Nobody is claiming what they're doing is illegal, so how does this add anything?

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by dualvariable on Monday November 09, 2026 @12:04PM (#50428317)
> As soon as you want to do business with Outlook's customers, you play by their rules.

That seems to be turning into "you spend money to another corporation that we trust".

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by thesuitonym on Monday November 09, 2026 @10:00AM (#50426579)
You might be on to something with the car thing... Maybe most people should rely on public transit.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by qup on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:48PM (#50434057)
Do most people live in cities? Probably they do, but where I'm at, no, I shouldn't rely on public transit.

This is also true for like 99% of the landmass of America.

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by lesostep on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:15AM (#50424040)
The problem isn't that a random person can't rent a Moldova VPS and run an email server, though. It's that most people are forced into gmail, apple and outlook accounts if they want to use phone/PC, and a respectful Moldova company now can't reach their respective Moldova clients without paying money towards USA.

Switch Moldova to almost any country (or even a state that isn't California or Washington), and it's the same story everywhere

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by prmoustache on Monday November 09, 2026 @01:07PM (#50429165)
The bad actors are actually using mostly gmail and outlook accounts so this is a weak justification.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by ShinyLeftPad on Monday November 09, 2026 @12:01AM (#50421268)
> Which with cheap models like Jev as spam classifiers, this can now become a reality.

With LLMs on the other side trying to make spam less detectable by cheap models like Jev?

It's funny when people assume benefits from some tech go one way and baddies will surely never use it...

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by jaza on Monday November 09, 2026 @12:00AM (#50421247)
Maybe because every Fortune 500 company (and 99% of all large companies / orgs worldwide) uses O365 / Exchange / GSuite?
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by Ungh on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:18AM (#50422151)
Err we are part of a Fortune 500 and we can't even deliver to ourselves sometimes.