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Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by urbandw311er on Sunday November 08, 2026 @03:32PM (#50416868)
It is literally one of the last free and open channels on the Internet – I suggest you work on supporting its use and keeping it that way rather than moving to something controlled for profit or data harvesting.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by SoftTalker on Sunday November 08, 2026 @03:41PM (#50416973)
It being free and open is exactly why the big providers are coming up with ever more "standards" that are complex to configure as well as "reputation" scores that are hard for small senders to clear.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by nine_k on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:02PM (#50418493)
DMARC is not hard.

"Reputation scores" and blacklists / greylists started in late 1990s / early 2000s as multiple grassroots efforts when spam started to overwhelm systems. Gmail did not exist, outlook.com did not exist, it was easy and expected to run your own SMTP (which I did). And it was very unpleasant.

DMARC appeared 10 if not 15 years ago. There's no reason for a sane MTA configuration not to have it.

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by jonathanlydall on Monday November 09, 2026 @12:00AM (#50421257)
Outlook.com is a rebranding of Hotmail.com which absolutely did exist in the 90’s.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by nine_k on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:00AM (#50422047)
Indeed, Hotmail was sold to MS in 1997, which I incorrectly remembered to have happened past 2000.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by expedition32 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:17PM (#50418696)
Microsoft has provided free email addresses to the public for decades.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by anonymous908213 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @04:08PM (#50417267)
Calling it a "free and open channel" when 80% of consumers are on Microsoft/Google addresses that control who can deliver e-mail is laughable. It's dead, Jim.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by urbandw311er on Sunday November 08, 2026 @04:26PM (#50417477)
Fair point - I meant free in the sense that the protocol is open. I didn’t mean that it’s not under threat.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by stephbook on Sunday November 08, 2026 @04:30PM (#50417506)
You seem to miss the point WHY customers go there. I, for one, switched when I realized Google filters spam effectively.
Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by theK on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:29PM (#50418843)
That WHY seems to only address a very small slice of the market. Some other WHYs I've encountered

- it was a way to outsource the mail server administration and already free in our corporate package

Which is pretty much all I have from the corporate side. On the personal or small business side its most often

- I don't really care that much about running my own stuff

- I needed a personal email address

All these are valid reasons/motivations but none explicitly argue that email messaging should become proprietary.

Re:Outlook.com Is Quietly Rejecting Email from Domains Witho... by pixl97 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:11PM (#50418622)
There is no such thing as a free and open channel on the internet that will not suffer the tragedy of the commons.