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Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by dead_hn_theory on Sunday November 08, 2026 @12:45AM (#50410744)
As an old-time Linux user I wish Asahi all the best, and I get why they want to have the apple silicon working. But it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth to support a company that has historically been somewhat hostile towards Linux/FOSS compat and the power users while in the same breath trying to proclaim their platform as developer friendly, nevermind the "apple tax" that has to be paid on commodity hardware. The hacker spirit isn't aligned on this one.
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by wmf on Sunday November 08, 2026 @01:34AM (#50410947)
Unfortunately this has been going on for 20 years and people refuse to learn.

"My [GPU/whatever] doesn't work right"

"Why don't you buy hardware that officially supports Linux?"

"I couldn't possibly"

Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by oefrha on Sunday November 08, 2026 @03:39AM (#50411463)
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Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by skywhopper on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:09AM (#50412243)
Wild to limit yourself to what the manufacturers “officially support”. May as well just run macOS with that attitude.
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by renehsz on Sunday November 08, 2026 @09:07AM (#50413502)
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Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by PennRobotics on Monday November 09, 2026 @05:58AM (#50423913)
I bought multiple ThinkPads with official Linux support that had diverse, show-stopping bugs. If ANY feasible alternative to Lenovo existed, I would've switched five years ago.
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by skywhopper on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:07AM (#50412229)
Uhh, this ethos of “can I make Linux work on this hardware” has been a huge driving force of Linux’s success. This sort of effort is deeply embedded in the culture and always has been.

Apple makes very high-quality hardware, and unlocking the full capability of that hardware via strong Linux support is absolutely a noble cause. Rather than giving in to corporate lockdown, the Asahi folks are gifting the world a way to take advantage of this new lineage of Apple Silicon based personal computers.

In 10 years when Apple has long abandoned support for the M1, M2, etc, that hardware will still be able to run strong thanks to the efforts of this team. I salute them.

Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by dead_hn_theory on Sunday November 08, 2026 @04:02PM (#50417214)
> Apple makes very high-quality hardware, and unlocking the full capability of that hardware via strong Linux support is absolutely a noble cause.

That is highly unlikely to happen. See proprietary GPU drivers.

Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by vallerie on Monday November 09, 2026 @03:55AM (#50422926)
fyi you should check out the Honeykrisp driver
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by rossy on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:40AM (#50412395)
If you think Apple has historically been somewhat hostile to FOSS, you'd hate to hear about the company whose logo is on every other laptop
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by dead_hn_theory on Sunday November 08, 2026 @04:06PM (#50417252)
No need for snide remarks. That "every other laptop" company runs stock x86 which has been documented and supported by Linux since day zero. Dealing with custom Apple hardware is a major fuck-you from too many angles.
Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by rossy on Sunday November 08, 2026 @08:50PM (#50419978)
Which angles specifically? It really isn't that clear cut. For example, the "every other laptop" company engages in "DRM as vendor lock-in" practices that Apple does not: a PC laptop with Secure Boot disabled can't watch 4K Netflix in the Windows partition, but an Apple laptop with Asahi can in the macOS partition.

Also, if you've bought a high-end PC laptop in the past decade, you'd know that you still can't get one without prior research to see if everything actually works with Linux.

Re:Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.3 by 306bobby on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:31AM (#50424156)
> a PC laptop with secure boot disabled can't watch 4K Netflix...

It can't? Not a laptop, but my desktop still has L1 without secure boot enabled. Don't have Netflix subscription to actually test your claim but idk what they'd be detecting / requiring outside of that