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Re:Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member clas... by noduerme on Saturday November 07, 2026 @11:09PM (#50410333)
>> the vast majority of us have been handing this data out to SaaS providers of all sizes and shapes for decades now, for free

This is truly disappointing to hear on HN.

Re:Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member clas... by jen20 on Saturday November 07, 2026 @11:41PM (#50410465)
You realize this site is run by a venture capital firm and startup accelerator whose alumni include companies like Flock and Delve, right?
Re:Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member clas... by noduerme on Sunday November 08, 2026 @04:39AM (#50411738)
There's always been a good bit of tension here between the YC founders and the people who work in the industry. I was banned for comments about PG ten years ago. Neither VC nor workers here are unaware of the consequences of widespread apathy. My disappointment is with one side of that argument capitulating or acting as if the principle is lost, or perhaps being too uneducated and ignorant to state the case.

The VC around here loses more than we do if HN ceases to be a useful barometer.

Re:Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member clas... by dang on Sunday November 08, 2026 @11:07AM (#50414424)
> I was banned for comments about PG ten years ago.

Where was that? I'd like to see a link, because this doesn't sound right to me. I was running HN 10 years ago, and it has never been a practice to ban people for "comments about PG".

We ban accounts that repeatedly break the site guidelines, including with personal attacks, but that is not a question of who the person is—it's a question of how badly they've broken the rules. Also, if the person is connected to YC, that would make us a little less likely to ban them, by the principle described here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

Re:Every Mac comes with an (undocumented) family member clas... by ndegruchy on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:29AM (#50414090)
It's no less true, though. I'm sure there is a cohort of HN folks who don't have or maintain a social media account (either any more, or ever), there are likely many more that do.