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Re:Running a law firm on Free software by tiahura on Saturday November 07, 2026 @11:11AM (#50405710)
https://www.harvey.ai/legal/harvey-privacy-center

Does Harvey train AI models on Customer Data and Content

We understand and appreciate that Customers trust Harvey with highly confidential information. Harvey does not use Customer Data or Content to train AI models, or to improve our products and services. We also do not access Customer Data or Content except (i) to provide or support the Harvey Service or (ii) to comply with the law or a binding order of a governmental body.

Re:Running a law firm on Free software by SoftTalker on Saturday November 07, 2026 @11:14AM (#50405728)
... at this time.

Also if you give your lawyer a document, that's privileged. If you upload it to Harvey, who knows?

Re:Running a law firm on Free software by stackskipton on Saturday November 07, 2026 @11:46AM (#50405942)
It would be considered privileged if your lawyer told you to and you had no reason to doubt it wouldn’t be. Your lawyer would be negligent if they didn’t have a contract with Harvey.

Just like emailing your lawyer on Office365 doesn’t get rid of client attorney either.

Re:Running a law firm on Free software by whatthejesus on Saturday November 07, 2026 @12:17PM (#50406205)
Yeah but it’s the data breaches that’s worrying right? They obviously store people’s data. They’ll get breached eventually they all do.
Re:Running a law firm on Free software by stackskipton on Saturday November 07, 2026 @01:14PM (#50406682)
Even during a data breach, leaked legal data can’t be used against you in most situations.
Re:Running a law firm on Free software by nunez on Saturday November 07, 2026 @12:21PM (#50406248)
> What is Customer Data and Content?

> Harvey defines Customer Data as documents uploaded to the Service by Harvey Customers. Content includes both the queries Customers input to the Service and the corresponding outputs from Harvey. In most cases, we talk about these terms together, as Customer Data and Content.

Doesn't include thinking/reasoning blocks though.

Nonetheless, I'd imagine that Amazon'ing law is unlikely given how much experience lawyers have with drafting contracts, but who knows.

Re:Running a law firm on Free software by caminante on Saturday November 07, 2026 @01:36PM (#50406826)
Thank you!

I suspected it wasn't as broad.

I wonder how much value you can get from just the middle layer and maybe reverse engineer the input/outputs based on success/failure from user interactions.

Re:Running a law firm on Free software by nunez on Monday November 09, 2026 @09:32AM (#50426188)
The "middle layer" is why it's difficult to look up Amazon orders from email. They were afraid of Google doing the same thing.
Re:Running a law firm on Free software by 306bobby on Saturday November 07, 2026 @08:55PM (#50409823)
Couldn't reasoning tokens be considered "output", since it doesn't specifically say user facing output?
Re:Running a law firm on Free software by nunez on Monday November 09, 2026 @09:31AM (#50426172)
They don't define inputs or outputs, so that would be up to the lawyers to argue in court :)
Re:Running a law firm on Free software by 306bobby on Monday November 09, 2026 @10:02AM (#50426608)
Agreed. Hopefully in this case the vagueness works in the favor of the consumer for once XD