Re:I struggle to believe that AI R&D is ingenious
by troupo on Friday November 06, 2026 @06:07PM
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> They sat in it. We had concrete details ('rumors' that turned out surprisingly accurate) months before the public release.
So all you had was rumours then "confirmed" by OpenAI marketing
> "Light years" is subjective
Yes. And this subjective description invokes a certain image that I objected to.
> but the accomplishments of those internal models we're proven to should be enough to give you some indication.
Yes. The indication is: there are some improvements, with diminishing returns. A lot of perceived improvements now come from tooling, harnesses etc.
And the people working at the labs have access to unrestricted models and unlimited compute that will not flag you for "bio research" and will not stop running after 5 hours, which adds to the marketing myths.
> You can fire up as many Astra agents as you like you're not going to get the performance of Open AI's internal model in math.
Of course I won't. I don't have the same access.
Doesn't mean any of their models are light years ahead. And as for maths, again, you literally have no idea what they were actually doing besides their marketing materials. But even their marketing materials let slip some details that amount to "commandeered a full cluster for 20 000 hours and let it rip"
So all you had was rumours then "confirmed" by OpenAI marketing
> "Light years" is subjective
Yes. And this subjective description invokes a certain image that I objected to.
> but the accomplishments of those internal models we're proven to should be enough to give you some indication.
Yes. The indication is: there are some improvements, with diminishing returns. A lot of perceived improvements now come from tooling, harnesses etc.
And the people working at the labs have access to unrestricted models and unlimited compute that will not flag you for "bio research" and will not stop running after 5 hours, which adds to the marketing myths.
> You can fire up as many Astra agents as you like you're not going to get the performance of Open AI's internal model in math.
Of course I won't. I don't have the same access.
Doesn't mean any of their models are light years ahead. And as for maths, again, you literally have no idea what they were actually doing besides their marketing materials. But even their marketing materials let slip some details that amount to "commandeered a full cluster for 20 000 hours and let it rip"