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Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by lakeviewterrace on Friday November 06, 2026 @05:25PM (#50399319)
All the time wasted on navel-gazing could have been spent auditing and fixing the original projects' code.

Starting anew WILL introduce new bugs. This is a statistical certainty.

Most Rust rewrites solve no new problems, just imaginary boogeymen.

Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by danielheath on Friday November 06, 2026 @05:30PM (#50399372)
One would never return “*” to signal an error in rust code (or any language with an option type).
Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by lakeviewterrace on Friday November 06, 2026 @05:36PM (#50399421)
Rust can't even self-host on most of the architectures that abortion of a library was written for.

Holy fuck are Rust people all petty activists?

Stop spending every waking minute telling everyone how great it is and making knockoff clones of 40 year old software and go solve new problems.

Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by Scoring6931 on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:41PM (#50400464)
Nothing precludes error handling in C. It's on the programmers to actually do it.
Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by Ygg2 on Friday November 06, 2026 @08:09PM (#50400621)
Nothing precludes having legible programs in Brainfuck[1]. It's on programmers to actually do it.

[1] Other than the language itself.

Same goes for C, it's reliance on weakish type system is what causes its numerous fuckups.

Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by danielheath on Sunday November 08, 2026 @12:44AM (#50410737)
If you forget to do it in C, everything still looks superficially right.

If you forget to do it in rust (or zig, or typescript, or any of the hundreds of languages with option types), your code doesn't compile.

Nothing precludes "simply do not fall off" when working off heights, either, but there's a reason safety harnesses are mandatory when working at heights in most of the developed world.

Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by mxey on Saturday November 07, 2026 @02:47PM (#50407432)
Imagine every Rust program just calling unwrap on this result, and therefore the Rust library deciding to just never return an error. That’s analogous to what happened here.
Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by UqWBcuFx6NV4r on Friday November 06, 2026 @06:04PM (#50399703)
I can’t stress this enough: there are—rightfully—a whole bunch of people that simply do not want to work on C codebases, because in the typical case, working wIth C sucks. Your outbursts are never going to change this, no matter how petulant or vitriolic. Amazing how a group of people has made “[aversion to{ languages with far fewer footguns” into some sort of culture war issue. Sorry that the industry is forcing you to read a book or whatever.
Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by saghm on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:08PM (#50400261)
If your goal is to convince people that you're right, describing things as "time wasted on navel-gazing" is not the type of thing that will win people over. It comes across as arrogant and entitled, as if the world would be better if everyone would just recognize you're smarter and therefore should do whatever you want.

If you're just pissed and trying to blow off steam, maybe this choice of words will help a bit, but because of the issues described above, it also might just cause a bunch of people to react negatively towards you and therefore make your mood worse.

If you're just commenting here as something to reference in the future for when you expect to say "I told you so!" to everyone, I guess this is a reasonable way of doing it. It still doesn't really seem like there's much need for phrasing it like that though; people still might look back and think that you're right but still sound arrogant and entitled.

Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by lakeviewterrace on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:19PM (#50400332)
Thanks, Dad.
Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by saghm on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:17PM (#50401013)
I'm sorry that my suggestion that people comment on this forum in more constructive ways bothers you
Re:The Ubuntu 26.04 Rust sudo is not compatible with standar... by aeonik on Saturday November 07, 2026 @05:53AM (#50403413)
He's your dad? You have a pretty cool dad.