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Re:Cuban: Facebook knowingly runs AI deepfake scam ads; docs... by cowlevel on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:52PM (#50387564)
What if i plug in an AI smart gun and point it at a person and the AI decides to pull the trigger do I go to jail?
Re:Cuban: Facebook knowingly runs AI deepfake scam ads; docs... by augment_me on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:25PM (#50387790)
Who goes to jail if a Tesla is hacked and runs over someone autonomously?

The rf engineer?

The cyber security engineer?

The project manager?

The AI engineer?

The hacker?

What if the hacker was an AI models that escaped its' sandbox across the world somewhere?

Like best case the family gets a payout and things continue like status quo, if you personally do something, you are screwed, but there is not really any law that can tie responsibility beyond some monetary punishment/cost of business for large corporations.

Re:Cuban: Facebook knowingly runs AI deepfake scam ads; docs... by bumby on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:30PM (#50387812)
Get rid of the industrial exemption and the responsibility falls to get licensed engineer who approves the design.

Most people don’t realize that many industries work within the framework of licensure, but also have industrial exemptions. There has also been a movement to peel back some of those exemptions because of the problems you point to.

Re:Cuban: Facebook knowingly runs AI deepfake scam ads; docs... by augment_me on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:48PM (#50387913)
Okay, my industrial engineer who approved this is part of a 3-man company in India.

We already do this. My prior uni got hacked, everyone's IDs/drivers licenses/passports, mails, data got leaked. The vendor was a 4-person third party cloud provider who had all of the necessary security certifications for the uni to avoid gross negligence. No-one paid anything as the 4-man firm went bankrupt and the uni got a new provider who is fully licensed to avoid gross negligence.

With software, you can stack these shells of proxies almost for free.

Re:Cuban: Facebook knowingly runs AI deepfake scam ads; docs... by bumby on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:37PM (#50388267)
I’m not sure I follow. An industrial engineer is not the same as an industrial engineering exemption.

Which licensed engineer stamped the software? The answer is probably “none”, because licensed engineers are liable even if their company is bankrupt. The person holds the license, not the company so it sounds like we’re talking past one another.

Re:Cuban: Facebook knowingly runs AI deepfake scam ads; docs... by augment_me on Friday November 06, 2026 @12:10AM (#50388465)
Sorry I mistyped, it meant to be responsible engineer given the industrial exemption.

I worked in HW before for home electronics that had to be certified. There was no responsibility for the engineers, the cert house had to take on this responsibility, and they had a shell certification company hired who would conduct the tests and take on the responsibility. At one point there was a litigation due to an RF leakage from a LATAM-bound device causing signaling issues to public infra, but it went nowhere because of the layering of responsibility made by the cert houses. No engineer was responsible.

Re:Cuban: Facebook knowingly runs AI deepfake scam ads; docs... by bumby on Friday November 06, 2026 @09:34AM (#50392776)
That type of HW certification is different than what I’m talking about. Yes, there are certain quality standards and certifications for something like J-STD, but importantly the domains that use them, like aerospace, still fall under industrial exemptions when it comes to a licensed engineer taking responsibility.
Re:Cuban: Facebook knowingly runs AI deepfake scam ads; docs... by whycombilater on Friday November 06, 2026 @01:38AM (#50388953)
Please let it be Elon...

Please let it be Elon...

Please let it be Elon...