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Re:Major Investors Are Skeptical Anthropic IPO Can Achieve $... by georgemcbay on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:27PM (#50387015)
> I see that all the money is being invested in AI and data centers but I do not quite understand why.

I am no economist or business person but AFAICT the massive amount of money being burned is because everyone in the space believes there will be a Google-like (for search) single winner who takes all when the dust settles on the AI race.

Because of this belief they are willing to burn any amount of money they can get their hands on to get to this mythical finish line as fast as they possibly can, seeing it as existential. Moving fast means moving expensively.

The real question is why anyone believes this single-winner theory when all available evidence so far suggests there is neither a moat nor a lock-in opportunity at all.

Re:Major Investors Are Skeptical Anthropic IPO Can Achieve $... by r_lee on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:53PM (#50387165)
I feel like there is a case to be made that they will be the dominant players, but if we're talking about them charging a heavy premium and trying to target enterprise customers, then I don't know how well that'll go

they're already making a business model where enterprises buy tokens and put them in a pool for their users to use, and I feel like that's exactly where some companies will then compare that token pricing to open source models and find it hard to justify the prices, especially as it's quite obvious that many models https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdocare now "good enough"

Re:Major Investors Are Skeptical Anthropic IPO Can Achieve $... by hedora on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:17PM (#50387314)
That turns into a world where NVidia + AMD get 90% of the profit. Supermicro and friends get the other 10%. (Excluding cloud markups.)
Re:Major Investors Are Skeptical Anthropic IPO Can Achieve $... by r_lee on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:14PM (#50388103)
depends on if they're cost efficient. if there comes some kind of "good enough" inference chips and so on (which i believe will happen), then those will simply provide the most tokens per dollar and make open models even cheaper
Re:Major Investors Are Skeptical Anthropic IPO Can Achieve $... by hedora on Friday November 06, 2026 @11:26AM (#50394482)
Yeah; the open model markup goes to zero. The manufacturers of the "good enough" inference chips are probably going to be some subset of NVidia, AMD, Apple, smartphone SoC manufacturers, and (long shot) Intel.

I shortened my list to NVidia and AMD because putting Apple in muddies my point: I'd argue they'll be able to sell laptops + phones in that world, but only if you can run frontier open models on their devices, and do so efficiently. This is definitely not the case for their in-house AI offerings, like Siri, but it is already true if you install llama.cpp or whatever. I suspect that AI will not be a big revenue source for them (unless they completely turn around their software engineering org), but instead will be a "good enough to keep people from dumping their iCloud subscription" offering instead. Siri is basically that: It's completely useless, but people aren't switching to android because of it.

Re:Major Investors Are Skeptical Anthropic IPO Can Achieve $... by byzantinegene on Friday November 06, 2026 @01:06AM (#50388751)
they get 90% of the profit, but the pie would shrink without the massive VC investments from anthropic and openai
Re:Major Investors Are Skeptical Anthropic IPO Can Achieve $... by bandrami on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:10PM (#50387275)
> The real question is why anyone (let alone everyone) believes this single-winner theory in 2026

In the First World War, when they introduced the tank, everybody assumed its role would be to punch a big enough hole in the front lines that the horse cavalry could ride through and attack the enemy's supply lines, because That's How Wars Endâ„¢. You fight the war you know, even when it's not the one you're actually fighting.

Re:Major Investors Are Skeptical Anthropic IPO Can Achieve $... by octoberfranklin on Thursday November 05, 2026 @09:31PM (#50387416)
For your product to be fit for purpose, it has to be able to automate your customer's ability to switch to a competing product with little to no friction.

This is a really great identification of why, from an investing perspective, AI is nothing like past technologies.