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Re:BYD doubles its Brazil market share to 9.7% a year after ... by everdrive on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:12PM (#50370164)
As usual, it's a debate where I'm not interested in either side. I don't want huge, over-sized, over-luxurious, over-priced American cars. I don't want somehow-even-more-luxurious, tracking hell, iPad hell Chinese cars.
Re:BYD doubles its Brazil market share to 9.7% a year after ... by bijowo1676 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:16PM (#50370211)
can you explain why is tracking an issue? Google/Android and Apple both do live tracking and Brazilians seems to be fine with using both US made and China made smartphones and cars.

Whats the real argument for a Brazilian, why they should be concerned with this ludicrous claims from USA: "muh China is tracking you going to Copacabana beach. Stop buying Chinese EV for $20k, buy Tesla for $60k instead and you will be safe!!!!11"

Re:BYD doubles its Brazil market share to 9.7% a year after ... by andrewl-hn on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:59PM (#50370709)
A car sells your data to your Insurance company. You had to rapidly stop to prevent an accident? Well, data looks exactly like reckless driving. Enjoy your higher rates, dear customer!
Re:BYD doubles its Brazil market share to 9.7% a year after ... by bijowo1676 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:53PM (#50371358)
car telematics in insurance is already being used and is offered to customers as opt-in in exchange for premium discounts for good driving behavior.

if you are not reckless driver yourself, I dont see a downside here. You get lower premiums, insurance is able to narrow down the pool of reckless drivers and properly price them and modify their behavior via monetary incentives

whats the actual downside here??????

Re:BYD doubles its Brazil market share to 9.7% a year after ... by everdrive on Thursday November 05, 2026 @06:18AM (#50377835)
I'll pay for your mattress and your bedroom set if you put a mic in your bedroom that I can listen to 24/7. I promise not to do anything bad with whatever I collect. I don't see a downside here either.
Re:BYD doubles its Brazil market share to 9.7% a year after ... by bijowo1676 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:24AM (#50380262)
Straw man, it is very sad you had to make up ridiculous unrealistic scenario to make your point, which highlights how weak and wrong your original position is
Re:BYD doubles its Brazil market share to 9.7% a year after ... by rtaylorgarlock on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:23PM (#50381751)
It's strange for me for a few reasons: 1) i'm a human susceptible to human desires, e.g. perception of luxury and comfort; 2) Strongly drawn to cost optimization, obviously; 3) Consider data privacy to be a nightmare; 4) Am good enough at heel-n-toe shifting + fast enough to poke fun at my 'manual transmission only friends' whose brains can't comprehend how good 'autotragics' have become; 5) Kind of want to see "Government Motors" punished, but...

This whole BYD thing is weird, cuz as far as i can read, it's not just one particular auto maker that's threatened. It's all of them. Necessary to work through this as a broader systemic industrial risk rather than simply a comparo of which bloated ipad-telemetric-couch-battery-motorcar I'd rather have

Re:BYD doubles its Brazil market share to 9.7% a year after ... by matheusmoreira on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:31PM (#50384080)
Don't all cars have tracking these days? Hopefully it will be possible to remove or disable their telematics modules.