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Re:Verification Is Not Knowledge: Science needs more than an... by niemandhier on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:13AM (#50366720)
He is also a member of the association of human mathematicians.

“ 1. Members commit to not working with commercial AI companies by providing technical labor, mathematical knowledge, consultation, or publicity.

2. Members commit to not publishing mathematical texts (including papers, reviews, referee reports, lecture notes, teaching materials, and books) generated by AI models. Members only publish their own writing, as opposed to outputs of AI tools. We affirm that mathematical writing should have human authorship. “

https://www.ahmath.org/members

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Re:Verification Is Not Knowledge: Science needs more than an... by hardbass on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:37PM (#50370469)
Are they publishing cryptographic proof they never used AI? They should request the AI companies that their IP addresses, etc blacklisted and hard banned from AI services and present some kind of verifiable cryptographic proof they submitted to such a ban.
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Re:Verification Is Not Knowledge: Science needs more than an... by datsci_est_2015 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:51PM (#50371332)
Or, maybe, they assume their peers within the organization are operating in good faith because they're not drawn from morally bankrupt communities like Silicon Valley.
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Re:Verification Is Not Knowledge: Science needs more than an... by hardbass on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @05:34PM (#50372433)
How would you know? Its easy to also accidentally use AI. They are mathematicians, they know mathematics demands proofs. If they pledge they shall not use AI, they should provide cryptographic proof otherwise the statement is considered untrue.
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Re:Verification Is Not Knowledge: Science needs more than an... by hardbass on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @05:34PM (#50372435)
How is silicon valley morally bankrupt?
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Re:Verification Is Not Knowledge: Science needs more than an... by datsci_est_2015 on Friday November 06, 2026 @07:37AM (#50391628)
Because they're the only community that requests cryptographic proof that their peers are acting in good faith. (:
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Re:Verification Is Not Knowledge: Science needs more than an... by hardbass on Sunday November 08, 2026 @11:47AM (#50414831)
Why do you use cryptography then? Why don't you trust your friends to be what they are? Why do you require records of your bank account, why can't you trust both sides to just keep their word?

I hate liars and hypocrites. If someone says they won't use AI, then they should be able to mathematically proved they didn't use AI. Otherwise they are a plain liar.

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