Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM

Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by traceroute66 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:18AM (#50350587)

> If you want zero data retention you have to go api only.

Time for the daily reminder that ZDR is a pinky-promise.

ZDR is a contract clause. That means:

    - It is subject to the rest of the contract, e.g. the good old "subject to lawful request or court order" carve-out clauses
    - It is subject to random provider exceptions, e.g. see Anthropic and Fable.
    - You have no way of verifying it beyond "trust me bro".

Basically you the only options are:

     - Run your own hardware which is obviously, the ideal situation
     - If you can't run your own hardware, use confidential computing which runs the AI in secure enclave, e.g. Privatemode[1] (Germany) or Tinfoil[2] (US)

[1] https://www.privatemode.ai/ [2] https://tinfoil.sh/

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Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by kasey_junk on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:47AM (#50350807)

For my companies purposes US contract law is risk mitigating enough.

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Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by traceroute66 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @09:02AM (#50352110)

> For my companies purposes US contract law is risk mitigating enough.

Where I work, US exposure is a risk in itself. CLOUD act, PATRIOT act and then the general political situation in the US.

We have been working hard to minimize US exposure to the maximum extent possible because the risk has gone from theoretical to actual.

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Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by epolanski on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:53AM (#50350863)

Which is why everybody buys tokens from Amazon or Microsoft or Google, not anthropic or OpenAI.

Because you already have your BI and mails on these providers.

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Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by traceroute66 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @09:04AM (#50352128)

> Which is why everybody buys tokens from Amazon or Microsoft or Google, not anthropic or OpenAI.

Erm. Exactly the same thing applies ? AWS, Azure or "direct" ... its all still "trust me dude".

> Because you already have your BI and mails on these providers.

You might. Lots of people don't. My $work and many others included.

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Re:Revolut moves to self-hosted GLM by solyin on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @09:14AM (#50352263)

How do you verify that privatemode.ai or tinfoil.sh are actually running the AI in a secure enclave? If you're the untrusting type, there's no way for them to prove they're not faking it being run on a fake secure enclave. If you're the really untrusting trusting type, "On Trusting Trust" should be your guidebook and local hardware won't save you either.

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