Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era
by logicchains on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @04:24AM
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>the owners of the productive forces
Without the owners of the productive forces the productive forces wouldn't exist. Go to North Korea if you want to see what it looks like when nobody's allowed build their own business.
North Korea was doing better than South Korea until America panicked and invested huge amounts into South Korea, creating the Chaebol system of enormous companies owned by a few families under a political dictatorship that over time has liberalized somewhat.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era
by bluecheese452 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @09:12AM
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False dichotomy.
Re:Egoless Mathematics in the AI Era
by imtringued on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @04:36AM
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I don't care about this "class war" or even ownership of the worthless "productive forces".
If you divide a product' cost into its "cost of availability" and the variable costs, none of this would even matter.
You could just ignore your noisy neighbors fighting over who gets to be the happy one, while you in your newfound freedom are simply happy.
If it wasn't clear, if you do not divide the two costs, then their fates are intertwined and so are the outcomes.
As Marx wrote: "Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."
And of course, that relationship is class war between the vast majority of the population and the owners of the productive forces.