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Re:Oracle files to sell $20B in new stock, bonds to finance ... by loeg on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:29PM (#50344896)
They own a smaller portion of outstanding shares, but the shares they own are worth more. Their value doesn't decrease.
Re:Oracle files to sell $20B in new stock, bonds to finance ... by donkers on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:39PM (#50345058)
They're not worth more. The number of shares is increased by the amount that was issued. So that larger amount of equity is split among more shares.

A simple example:

Current equity of $100B, 100 shares outstanding. Each share is worth $1B, with 1% of voting power.

Then we issue $10B of equity via 10 shares.

Now we have equity of $110B, with 110 shares outstanding. Each share is still worth $1B, except each share now has 1/110 of voting power, instead of 1/100. Each share now only controls 0.91% of the company. Their ownership has been diluted.

Re:Oracle files to sell $20B in new stock, bonds to finance ... by loeg on Monday November 02, 2026 @09:23PM (#50347184)
Again, their economic value is the same as it was before.
Re:Oracle files to sell $20B in new stock, bonds to finance ... by dcrazy on Monday November 02, 2026 @09:45PM (#50347354)
You seem to be actively resisting the understanding that share dilution is not just about the company’s balance sheet.
Re:Oracle files to sell $20B in new stock, bonds to finance ... by donkers on Monday November 02, 2026 @11:03PM (#50347909)
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Re:Oracle files to sell $20B in new stock, bonds to finance ... by cowlevel on Monday November 02, 2026 @09:56PM (#50347444)
No it isn't because the share price went down
Re:Oracle files to sell $20B in new stock, bonds to finance ... by donkers on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:50PM (#50347834)
Yes, that’s exactly what my example tells you. And share price remains the same. You keep claiming it goes up which is absolutely not what happens. And ownership share of the company goes down per share of stock. That’s the definition of dilution. A company can’t issue more shares and somehow you own more of the company as an existing shareholder.
Re:Oracle files to sell $20B in new stock, bonds to finance ... by quickthrowman on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:59PM (#50345268)
You are describing a stock buyback. Issuing new shares is dilutive.

Buyback example:

There are 10 shares of ABC Corp, it has a market cap of $100. Each share is worth $10.

ABC corp buys back one share and destroys it, leaving 9 shares.

$100/9 shares=$11.11 per share.

Dilution example:

There are 10 shares of ABC Corp, it has a market cap of $100. Each share is worth $10.

ABC corp needs $10 so they sell one additional share which the board has authorized. There are now 11 shares.

$100/11 shares=$9.09

In summation, a buyback increases the value of each share and issuing more stock reduces the value of each share.

Re:Oracle files to sell $20B in new stock, bonds to finance ... by donkers on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:18PM (#50345537)
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Re:Oracle files to sell $20B in new stock, bonds to finance ... by cowlevel on Monday November 02, 2026 @09:56PM (#50347449)
Except ABC corp has $90 in example A and $110 in example B