While it's unfortunate that it's happening, if a large portion of your inventory depends on regulated temperature, perhaps you should've disconnected your refrigeration from the internet by now?
Re:Temperature soars at Swedish grocery store freezers, one ...
by vpaulus on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:55AM
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While I totally understand the need of remote controlling some kind of freezer units, please explain for me, why on the earth do a grocery store need online freezers? The shops are usually open and have on-place human staff 7 days a week, 10-16 hours a day.
Re:Temperature soars at Swedish grocery store freezers, one ...
by citrin_ru on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:44AM
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On site stuff likely paid minimal wage and not trusted change a freezer settings. Centralized management is cheaper (until it's not). But there are many ways to do it more secure than connecting the device to the internet and allowing incoming connections from any IP (how likely it was done).
Re:Temperature soars at Swedish grocery store freezers, one ...
by lambdaone on Monday November 02, 2026 @04:57AM
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Centralized monitoring, so you can check if the local staff are doing their job properly, and in an ideal world, detecting performance degradation so you can schedule maintenance before they break.
Re:Temperature soars at Swedish grocery store freezers, one ...
by vpaulus on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:05AM
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Sounds legit, thanks!
I am wondering then what is a good solution for this kind of issues? A physical switch on the freezer that enables/disables remote control over remote monitoring? However the operators will leave this switch on for convenience.
Re:Temperature soars at Swedish grocery store freezers, one ...
by ano-ther on Monday November 02, 2026 @05:02AM
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Why would you design a freezer to be set to 50 degrees Celsius?
> One Swedish store on Monday said on social media that the temperature of its refrigerators and freezers had been set to 50 degrees Celsius (122 F), similar to the attack in France.
Re:Temperature soars at Swedish grocery store freezers, one ...
by persolb on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:55AM
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Defrosting.
That said, there is no reason for that to be remotely activated. You need to empty the freezer first anyway. I’ve had this same fight dozens of times, and with things that could directly kill people.”But we want to be able to update software remotely, and control (dangerous feature) via software.” The only reason iI’ve been able to push back on it is due to mandated hazard logs, which won’t pass with the above implemented.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50055304 Then chains in France
While it's unfortunate that it's happening, if a large portion of your inventory depends on regulated temperature, perhaps you should've disconnected your refrigeration from the internet by now?
> One Swedish store on Monday said on social media that the temperature of its refrigerators and freezers had been set to 50 degrees Celsius (122 F), similar to the attack in France.
That said, there is no reason for that to be remotely activated. You need to empty the freezer first anyway. I’ve had this same fight dozens of times, and with things that could directly kill people.”But we want to be able to update software remotely, and control (dangerous feature) via software.” The only reason iI’ve been able to push back on it is due to mandated hazard logs, which won’t pass with the above implemented.