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Re:Nurses Sound Alarm as 'Uber for Nursing' Apps Push to Der... by noir_lord on Sunday November 01, 2026 @03:32PM (#50329499)
> Taxi drivers were not more "regulated" in any meaningful way, in fact oversight of them was significantly worse than the community-driven Uber rating system (not that that doesn't also have flaws).

You are defaulting to the US here (and I doubt Taxi regulation in the US is that homologous either tbh given the complexity of 50 states and then cities on top of that).

Taking the country I'm most familiar with (the UK), Taxis fall into two categories (only one of which is technically a taxi by law if not convention - Hackney and private hire vehicles) both are licensed in different but similar ways by the licensing authorities (usually the local council but not always), some of those laws go back centuries.

Also worth noting, in the UK Uber does operate under the Private Hire Vehicle laws and does have to comply with applicable licensing same as any other "taxi" (private hire vehicle) operator.

They tried to argue otherwise and lost (at the UK Supreme Court so it's essentially settled case law) so they are classed as a PHV Operator and must ensure they only use a properly licensed PHV vehicle and drivers and can't pull the "but they are independent contractors" card out when it explodes in their faces.

It was a little more nuanced than that. The actual case was about whether a private hire operator accepting a booking had to contract with the customer as principal, rather than merely acting as an agent arranging a contract between the customer and driver (which was essentially Uber's argument).

The (UK) Supreme Court said "nah, it's you, nice try though".

Re:Nurses Sound Alarm as 'Uber for Nursing' Apps Push to Der... by multjoy on Sunday November 01, 2026 @04:18PM (#50329993)
They actually lost thrice - in 2017 TFL pulled their PHV licence because Uber London Limited wasn't considered to be a 'fit and proper person', Uber thought they could brazen it out only to find that TFL is beholden only to the Mayor and they ended up having to come back on bended knee, and then it was further refused in 2019 but returned on appeal - https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Uber-v-T...), which lists significant failings by Uber that they had since remedied.

The third outing with the Supreme Court was about employment rights - were the drivers workers, or genuine independent contractors for whom Uber are merely acting as a booking agent (which the Uber model relies almost entirely on).

The Employment Tribunal, The Employment Appeal Tribunal, The Court of Appeal and finally the Supreme Court all said "nah fam, you ain't fooling nobody" and the original ET was especially scathing:

> It seems to us that the Respondents' general case and the written terms on which they rely do not correspond with the practical reality. The notion that Uber in London is a mosaic of 30,000 small businesses linked by a common 'platform' is to our minds faintly ridiculous. In each case the 'business' consists of a man with a car seeking to make a living by driving it.

Re:Nurses Sound Alarm as 'Uber for Nursing' Apps Push to Der... by noir_lord on Sunday November 01, 2026 @04:22PM (#50330032)
Aye, it's been interesting (by which I mean highly entertaining) to watch them run face first into the pole repeatedly since their attitude of "We got away with this elsewhere" worked until it didn't.
Re:Nurses Sound Alarm as 'Uber for Nursing' Apps Push to Der... by Normal_gaussian on Sunday November 01, 2026 @07:21PM (#50331435)
They did get away with it in London. They broke laws, argued unfaithfully in court, got denied a license, got an extended probationary period from a magistrate, and finally are operating in the clear.

Very very few other businesses get to act so brazenly and dangerously, then get an extended period of time and support to do the bare minimum to qualify as compliant.

Re:Nurses Sound Alarm as 'Uber for Nursing' Apps Push to Der... by Gareth321 on Monday November 02, 2026 @01:57AM (#50333867)
I think it's fair to say regulation existed and exists in the West for taxi drivers. I understand their point to be the degree. I've taken many taxis in the UK and prior to Uber, the experience sucked outside of a black cab (which are very expensive). Ditto for New Zealand, Australia, Italy, France, Greece, etc. I'm lucky to be well travelled and I can say that sentiment for taxi drivers was terrible prior to Uber. Regulation existed, but that didn't stop drivers from being terrible in many ways.

Uber made it very clear who the terrible drivers were. It turned it into a real service industry where good service was expected. Suddenly scammers couldn't hide behind anonymity. To this day I would rather pay 2x as much for an Uber than take a regular taxi. That's how much they sucked.